Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-20 Thread August Goers
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Joel Davidson *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 6:26 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs Wrenches, Allan Sindelar's 2003 RE-Wrenches lightning discussion

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-17 Thread Joel Davidson
-wrenches] Delta LAs Jay - I can see that point, but does that really effect insurance payout? It seems like one could argue that a properly installed system with proper grounding inspected by a building official has a lot more clout than and little grey cylinder next to the inverter

[RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Kristopher Schmid
It is quite ironic that just a week after I posted a question to the group on testing the integrity of lightning arrestors, I had one apparently faulty out of the box. The manifest of this was interesting: when the AC LA (LA302R) was connected in parallel on the AC input to a SB3000 inverter,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Nick Soleil
From: Kristopher Schmid sol...@legacysolar.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 6:29:45 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs It is quite ironic that just a week after I posted a question to the group on testing the integrity

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread August Goers
All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even worth using at all? My logic has always been that if lightning does indeed strike that it's likely going to blow the arrestor and and inverter. We don't have much of a lightning issue issue in the Bay Area so I don't

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Kelly Keilwitz
All, Our AHJ's started making us take the Deltas out a couple of years ago, as they are not listed equipment. We kept ordering them for awhile, thinking they were necessary, cheap insurance, intending to return after the inspection and put 'em in. We now have a large, dusty stack of uninstalled

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Kristopher Schmid
To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even worth using at all? My logic has always been that if lightning does indeed strike that it's likely going to blow the arrestor and and inverter. We don't have much

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Mick Abraham
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *August Goers *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:39 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even worth using at all? My logic has always been

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Dave Click
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs From: Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: 2010/9/14 15:17 Citel products do have a listing mark but this is European style CE, not American style UL/ETL. Citel is reputedly working on American

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Joel Davidson
the CE mark requirements and DIY. From: Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 12:17:34 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs Citel products do have a listing mark

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread jay peltz
I also live in a area without much lightning, however I install one in most systems for the simple reason of insurance. If there is lightning damage, the insurance company can't use that as a way to not pay any claims. ie cheap insurance. jay peltz power On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:39 AM, August

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread August Goers
Jay - I can see that point, but does that really effect insurance payout? It seems like one could argue that a properly installed system with proper grounding inspected by a building official has a lot more clout than and little grey cylinder next to the inverter or disconnect. Please all

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
My own limited field experience in lightning country (New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma), has definitely proven your point. Grounding and testing of the grounding system is the first line of attack against lightning. Also, showing an insurance company (and the customer) ground