Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-30 Thread Chris Mason
I misunderstood the question the two options I listed are battery systems. What I should have suggested as a solution was the Enphase microinverter system with the Zero Export profile and Production CTs on the service to the panel. That will do Zero Export so that all the power produced is self

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-30 Thread Jerry Shafer
SMA Has the optional Power during a grid failure Jerr On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 8:11 AM Jay wrote: > are there any products out there that can do a grid tie w/o batteries but > no sell back to the > grid? > > Thx > Jay > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood

[RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-30 Thread jay
Hi Wes and everyone else. I’ve heard from Enphase and Fronius offsite and indeed its quite possible to do “self consumption”. Both Enphase and Fronius need some additional hardware but thats to be expected and pretty minor really. SMA and SE both are supposed to do it but I didn’t pursue

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-29 Thread wes kennedy
HI Jay, The Fronius line, primo or symo have that capability. You need the smart meter to measure current flow at point of interconnection. The tricky bit is what happens when a big load suddenly turns off. There will always be a small flow of energy across the meter for a second or two while

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-29 Thread Chris Mason
Outback Radian or Pika. On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:41 PM Jay wrote: > are there any products out there that can do a grid tie w/o batteries but > no sell back to the > grid? > > Thx > Jay > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
The SolarEdge HD Wave line with their accompanying electricity meter (which uses CTs to make sure that export does not take place upstream of the CTs) should work fine for what you suggest. marco On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, Jay wrote: > Hi Chris, > > So it doesn’t sound like what I’m after.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread William Miller
transition from energy storage devices to energy consuming devices.“ W. Miller *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Marco Mangelsdorf *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 6:12 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Jay
Hi Chris, So it doesn’t sound like what I’m after. I’m looking for a GT WO batteries hooked to the main panel just like normal but having communication from the main ( could be reading smart meter or using sensors) to allow power to be consumed in the house but no export to the grid by

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Both SolarEdge and the Enphase IQ7 should be capable of doing zero export with or without storage. marco On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, Jay wrote: > are there any products out there that can do a grid tie w/o batteries but > no sell back to the > grid? > > Thx > Jay > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Roland - RES
Enphase, Solar-Edge, Pika, and I believe now SMA. You can check HECO advanced inverters list under CSS program which lists all compliant inverters. > Sent from a IPhone, with touch screen keys on the fly. Please excuse > shortcuts and typos. > Roland Shackelford NABCEP CERTIFIED PV INSTALLER

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Bradley Bassett
I think you do need either a battery or AC source to start up the inverter in the morning. It's also possible that if it is overloaded and shuts down it might not restart. It will not start from PV alone. Brad On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:28 PM Chris Sparadeo wrote: > Jay, > > My understanding is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Jay, My understanding is that the Outback SkyBox is capable of supplying power to AC loads (what they call “micro grid”) without needing grid input or a DC storage system. Kind of like the SMA SunnyBoy secure power supply, only on a larger scale. However, depending on the electrical demands of

[RE-wrenches] Grid tie w/o battery no sell back

2019-08-28 Thread Jay
are there any products out there that can do a grid tie w/o batteries but no sell back to the grid? Thx Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: