Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-22 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Yes Sonoma county requires 30' minimum from ground arrays for fire setbacks.  and by extension 30' from property lines (as an array owner can't control a neighbors brush removal) More is surely advised!  I imagine other CA counties have similar requirements. Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-21 Thread Ray
I, second Jay's /no gravel/ sentiment.  I saw a huge 160 acre solar farm that they covered with hundreds of thousands of dollars of gravel. Punch Line?  Only the weeds came back.  And only the nice 3 ft tall ones that some might call brush. Just use a weed eater or manually pull the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-21 Thread Jay
There is another aspect to the 10’ rule which is, its protection for the array from wildfires. 10’ might not be enough for that though depending on where you live. In regards to what’s being discussed, I have many ground mounts (not talking pole mounts)out there, I try to have them as high

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Herzfeld
Dan, I think there should more discussions on ground-mounted arrays as an option in addition to rooftop systems - to get out ahead of any issues. In addition, any renderings for ground-mounted arrays and ground-mounted stuff as ESSs. 1. By definition, a brush could mean a "slight and fleeting

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-20 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
In our area of California, when the green grass dies and turns brown, the area under any type of array needs to be free of grass. An array could ignite a wildfire if the array were emit sparks. This is a very rare condition but it can happen to even the best design and module type. There would

[RE-wrenches] Ground mount fire code clarifications

2020-03-20 Thread Dan Fink
Hello esteemed Wrenches; I am trying to clear this up for a client and his AHJ, which is also puzzled at how to interpret IFC 2018, Section 1204.4, which states: Setback requirements shall not apply to ground-mounted, free-standing > photovoltaic arrays. A clear, brush-free area of 10 feet (3048

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount with cable anchors

2019-09-10 Thread Benn Kilburn
Glenn, I've installed an 80+kW and a couple 10+kW systems using this Nuance system. They are assembled fairly quickly and the legs are adjustable for uneven ground, which is nice. The ease of driving the cable anchors into the ground will, of course, depend on the site. Luckily, i had no issue

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount with cable anchors

2019-09-09 Thread Chris Schaefer
Glen, I just completed a three aray project. Call me @ 585-748-1870 and I'll tell you all about it. Christopher Schaefer On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:31 PM Jerry Shafer wrote: > Wrenches/Glen > I know nuance, they must be trailered or crained into position, leveled on > site and cables are driven

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount with cable anchors

2019-09-09 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches/Glen I know nuance, they must be trailered or crained into position, leveled on site and cables are driven in and pre-loaded and cable locks installed. I have there products around California along with the predecessor. Delivery can be an issue and there team does the cables so that's

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount with cable anchors

2019-09-09 Thread Glenn Burt
Hello Wrenches, We are looking at alternatives to pile driving and helical piles and concrete piers for small residential ground mount systems. I have just found Nuance Energy who makes a system that is basically set on the grade, and with cables and pivoting duckbill earth anchors and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount for east-west slope

2015-08-22 Thread AE Solar
your self. Jerry Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: frenergy Date:08/21/2015 3:31 AM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount for east-west slope We recently did a job like this on a 17 degree

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount for east-west slope

2015-08-21 Thread jerrysgarage01
...@psln.com /divdivDate:08/21/2015 3:31 AM (GMT-10:00) /divdivTo: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org /divdivSubject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount for east-west slope /divdiv /divWe recently did a job like this on a 17 degree slope, if it helps... Bill Feather River Solar Electric

[RE-wrenches] Ground mount for east-west slope

2015-08-21 Thread William Miller
Friends: I am looking for a ground mount racking system that can be installed on a 15 degree slope down to the east. I'd like the verticals to be set in concrete or driven vertically with the horizontals to slope at 15 degrees. The racking we have used heretofore has required the horizontal

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Wire Shielding

2015-03-10 Thread william
Colleagues: I am in need of an authoritative source to provide criteria for wire shielding on ground mount PV racking. Ideally this would be an industry publication or learned professional like Bill Brooks that would provide some specific information about the requirement for full coverage

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount options?

2013-04-18 Thread jay peltz
How large an array are you needing? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Jesse Dahl dahlso...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've been asked to put together a proposal for a local community and the only option is a ground mount (pole mount would work too). I've

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount options?

2013-04-18 Thread Jesse Dahl
They want two sizes proposed to them so I was going to go with a 40kW and a 11kW-15kW. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:01 AM, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: How large an array are you needing? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Jesse

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount options?

2013-04-18 Thread Benn Kilburn - DayStar Renewable Energy
: [RE-wrenches] ground mount options? Hello, I've been asked to put together a proposal for a local community and the only option is a ground mount (pole mount would work too). I've looked at a few options today and was wondering if anyone has any opinions on the DPW Power Peak mounting

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount options?

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Anderson
Schletter has a nice small kit package if you are looking for something in AL. Terrasmart is also a favorite of ours for challenging soil conditions - their ground screws go through anything. Great team over there too. Sunlink LGMS flies up if you have good flat soil. Pricey at small sizes but

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-22 Thread Bill Brooks
, 2010 5:51 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Bill, I don't really want to call you out, but I also don't like you lording your expertise over me, implying that I am stupid and I am going to get myself killed someday, or worse yet kill someone else: 1 - 2008 NEC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-22 Thread Drake
- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:35 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system with Enphase

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-22 Thread William Miller
Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:35 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-22 Thread Bill Brooks
currently underway. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:24 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Thanks

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system with Enphase inverters. 690.31 requires readily accessible source and output conductors OPERATING at over 30 volts to be installed in a raceway. The Vmp of the REC230PE modules is 29.4 volts. Of course it would go higher in cold

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Dave Click
How about hardware cloth along the back of the array beneath the rails? I think that's been suggested on this list before. Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening From: Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread William Miller
Drake: Who is manufacturing the racking? DPW has worked with us to develop some screening options. WE have also developed our own screening (and wire management) procedures. We spend a lot of time creating these procedures we keep them to ourselves to prevent local competitors from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Brooks
: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system with Enphase inverters. 690.31 requires readily accessible source and output conductors OPERATING at over 30 volts to be installed in a raceway. The Vmp of the REC230PE modules is 29.4 volts

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 www.berkeleysolar.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:57 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:57 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Drake, I recommend using 4'x8' panels of lattice work that is either wood or PVC so that you don't have worry about grounding the material. It is reasonably

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Szumlanski Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Maybe they should require that extension cords be in conduit. :) where do you draw the line

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Brooks
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:37 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening You know, I can go down into my unfinished basement, through an unlocked full height door. The wiring in this space is fully Code compliant. And yet, I can walk over and put my bare hand right

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Matt Lafferty
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:35 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system with Enphase inverters. 690.31 requires readily accessible

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
www.berkeleysolar.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:55 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening Mark, The fact is you can't

[RE-wrenches] Ground mount wire shielding

2010-06-29 Thread Andy Tyson
Hi, I'm Looking for products or techniques that have been used as a raceway for wire protection on the back of a ground mount array. The local AHJ is not accepting a fence. We are required to cover or shield our USE module wiring below 8'. Side question: if we directly attach (self tappers) a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount wire shielding

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Palumbo
, 2010 5:12 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount wire shielding Hi, I'm Looking for products or techniques that have been used as a raceway for wire protection on the back of a ground mount array. The local AHJ is not accepting a fence. We are required

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount PV DC Disconnects and 690.13

2010-03-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, For a ground mounted PV array I do NOT see where 690.13, 690.14 mandates a DC disconnect at the array itself. My question is what do you do as best practice for safety, or for service of inverter disconnect. I have been using 600VDC SQ-D disconnects at our ground mounts and I'm

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount PV DC Disconnects and 690.13

2010-03-30 Thread Dave Click
to use the 361RB disconnect per its UL listing. Per Schneider Electric's Self-Certified method you'd be fine breaking it just once (the 30A disconnect can take a 12.8A Isc). Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount PV DC Disconnects and 690.13 From: Dave Palumbo

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread Keith Cronin
Hi I have a solar friend who is looking for some feedback on cost per footing for a small residential ground mount system in Northern CA. Do any of you have a cost estimate/assumption for each sonotube and concrete mix? What have been the general requirements for diameter and depth of the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread Larry Brown
Keith, We have had good success with TechnoMetalPosts for ground mounts No excavation, no concrete work and almost no disturbance to the site They have been running about $225-250 per post installed and a stamped engineering report for the local Building Department Larry Brown Sun Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread jay peltz
Hi All, Unistrut makes a telescoping set called get this telestrut. Pretty close to what you are discussing. But does anybody know if Powerstrut makes the same? My supplier only carries Powerstrut? Thanks, jay On Jun 30, 2009, at 5:47 PM, R. Walters wrote: I just looked at the Techno Metal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount

2009-06-30 Thread David Palumbo
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry Brown Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:23 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Keith, We have had good success with TechnoMetalPosts for ground mounts

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Yago
This issue came up here about a year ago and my rant then is the same as now. We need a solar module manufaturer to provide an "optional" conduit box on their module for those situations where we need to put array wiring in conduit for better protection, like ground mounted arrays. One size does

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility

2009-01-27 Thread William Miller
http://mpandc.com/practices/Technical_Procedures/PV_wiring/PV_wiring.html At 02:24 PM 1/27/2009, you wrote: Wrenches, In regards to 690.31 (A) which requires readily-accessible PV source and output circuits above 30 V to be installed in a raceway, have any of you come up with a method you

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility

2009-01-27 Thread Phil Schneider
www.CreativeEnergies.biz 307.332.3410 Lander, WY 208.354.3001 Victor, ID From: William Miller wrmil...@charter.net Reply-To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:45:05 -0800 To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility

2009-01-27 Thread William Miller
Jan 2009 14:45:05 -0800 To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility http://mpandc.com/practices/Technical_Procedures/PV_wiring/PV_wiring.html http://mpandc.com/practices/Technical_Procedures/PV_wiring/PV_wiring.html At 02

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility

2009-01-27 Thread Phil Schneider
Jan 2009 17:44:44 -0800 To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mount wiring non-accessibility Phil: In which code version is the passage below found? I have the 2002 and the 2005 on CD Rom and it is in neither. As such, local inspectors