Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-05-02 Thread bob
I have never thought that it made any sense to insulate a battery box. It might be logical to put a break between the cold ground and the batteries but otherwise it's a waste of time. They need to be vented to clear the gas. Also the battery is so dense that it changes temperature slowly anyway.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-05-01 Thread Jeff Yago
As you know, cold floors reduce battery charge. We use a support "shelf" made of pressure treated 2 x 4 on EDGE, separated by 3/8" pressure treated plates every 2 feet, using 8 foot long boards. This 16" wide by 8 foot long shelf is placed on standard concrete blocks spaced every 2 or 3 feet,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-05-01 Thread William Miller
Jeff: This racking system sounds like it would be a nightmare during an earthquake. We have a system with IBE 2 volt batteries that suffered major damage during an earthquake in our area in 2003. All of the batteries tipped over and spilled their entire contents in the battery room.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-05-01 Thread Allan Sindelar
Each of us has developed our own solutions. I like to keep batteries in a tempered space, to maintain reasonable winter temperatures. Tempered doesn't mean thermostatic heat, but an insulated space with a trombe wall that holds 50F or more in winter is sweet. I often put batteries indoors in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread Exeltech
in my solar trailer and find them very satisfactory. Dan --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com wrote: From: Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
Mick, The boxes from Radiant Technology are very nice. For four L16 batteries or golf cart batteries the Contico Pro Tuff Bin from Lowes works really well, is very durable, and an excellent value. If building a box out of plywood, the bottom should be acid resistance such as fiber-glass resin

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread R Ray Walters
I haven't seen a problem with concrete, but wood definitely rots out when exposed to acid, including pressure treated. (Saw a system with Battery shelving made from wood where the top shelf collapsed from acid rot..) Acid also eats foam board, unsticks silicon seal, and gets under and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
Ray, I haven't installed any HUP batteries in several years so my info may be out of date but the steel case on the older HUP batteries had drain holes on the bottom. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. R Ray Walters wrote: I haven't seen a problem with concrete, but wood definitely

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread R Ray Walters
We had a HUP cell freeze and crack once, and it didn't leak out. I just double checked with Northwest Energy Storage, and they confirmed that the steel casing will contain a spill, and doesn't have drain holes. They said that in one case, a customer overfilled the batteries, and that the casing