Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures

2018-11-18 Thread jerrysgarage01
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures Jerry - Thanks for the input!  No snail trails or burn marks at his point as the system has yet to be commissioned.  There will be an aerial IR inspection once we're operating and if anything shows up it'll be addressed for sure, but my unders

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures

2018-11-18 Thread Andrew Truitt
Jerry - Thanks for the input! No snail trails or burn marks at his point as the system has yet to be commissioned. There will be an aerial IR inspection once we're operating and if anything shows up it'll be addressed for sure, but my understanding of microfractures is that the effects often don'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures

2018-11-16 Thread Jerry Shafer
Andrew, Wrenches While in Hawaii, l had modules that had fractures, some showed up in low performance, some did not and l don't recall there being a wobble on the high side. I would suggest inspecting what the modules look in question. Most of the time the cracks are visable and may look like worm

[RE-wrenches] Microfractures

2018-11-16 Thread Andrew Truitt
Wrenches - Does anyone have experience getting electroluminescence (EL) test results from module manufacturers? I just shot some module IV curves as part of an acceptance test and they all show some irregularities on the vertical slope that Solmetric says are indicative of microfractures: [image:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-05 Thread William Dorsett
Manhattan, KS -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Warfel Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:21 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules Recently a inspector

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-04 Thread jay peltz
Hi Chris, There are a number of test methods, but the best two are. Electroluminescence imagining ELI thermal imaging IR >From what I read at Photon, the ELI is the best for micro cracks before they >really happen. After they are visible, thermal imaging can be helpful. As to it being a real

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-04 Thread Bill Hoffer
Christopher There are some level of micro fractures that are always present in cells and not visible to the naked eye. Some of these will produce visible fractures over time from loading and flexing of the module from weather and temperature changes. The micro fractures can be an issue with perf

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-04 Thread Christopher Warfel
No, this is a third party quality assurance inspector for a rate payer funded program. The issue is most likely proper use of ratepayer funds towards these projects. I would think that the AHJ wouldn't be concerned unless there was a safety issue My question is more along the lines of: is this

Re: [RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-04 Thread jay peltz
Hi Chris, Do you mean the AHJ? jay On Oct 4, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Christopher Warfel wrote: > Recently a inspector raised the issue of microfractures in pv modules, and > that the existence of such fractures would require replacement of the modules > and a failing of the system inspection. I fo

[RE-wrenches] Microfractures in PV Modules

2014-10-04 Thread Christopher Warfel
Recently a inspector raised the issue of microfractures in pv modules, and that the existence of such fractures would require replacement of the modules and a failing of the system inspection. I found information from NREL confirming the existence of microfractures in poly crystalline. However