Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-13 Thread Kevin Pegg
gnose and or resolve remotely should the main power be offline for any reason. Kevin -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: October 12, 2014 12:34 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality, 50 mf capacitor

2014-10-13 Thread Exeltech
rol circuits are concerned. To say you've been amazingly lucky would be appropriate. Dan -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 16:21 To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality, 50 mf capacitor

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Schaefer
-Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 16:21 To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality Hi Dan; I, like Larry, must be amazingly lucky then, because we&#x

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Ray Walters
to the inverter, the load(s) .. or both. Power factor is one of the most misunderstood aspects of electricity. Dan (Professional inverter design engineer .. among other things...) On Sun, 10/12/14, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Subject: Re:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread William Miller
Friends: The system is off grid with: 3 SI6048s in 3 phase 2 SB5000s 1SB4000 1 Generac 40kw generator A Savant home automation system with Furman 1500 UPS. Yes, when the SIs are running into the Furman we have cascading UPSs, but when the generator is powering loads it transfers straight throug

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Exeltech
verter, the load(s) .. or both. Power factor is one of the most misunderstood aspects of electricity. Dan (Professional inverter design engineer .. among other things...) On Sun, 10/12/14, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi William, If you recall a couple years ago we had some discussion here about a problem with a specific make appliance being powered by a Magnum inverter. The problem, it was discovered, was the appliance input PF was creating current demands that the transformer based inverter could not keep

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Chris Mason
A Sunny Island that switches to and from grid power probably does not transfer smoothly enough to protect sensitive equipment, but if it is online all the time, using solar to charge the batteries, I would not bother with a UPS. On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:27 AM, wrote: > perhaps i am not underst

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
eters. (Boy, do we know all about that here in Hawaii.) marco From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:21 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality Friends: I am still hav

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread toddcory
perhaps i am not understanding the set-up, but why feed a ups with a ups? doesnt the sunny island already provide ups capabilities for the loads connected to it? todd On Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:40am, "Tump" said: Thats the best fix I've heard yet! Document then DUMP IT! With the p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Chris Mason
If the SI system has enough reserve, run it totally off-grid with the grid as backup. Then they will never see any transitions. On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Tump wrote: > Thats the best fix I've heard yet! > Document then DUMP IT! With the power logger you would also be able to > capture th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Tump
Thats the best fix I've heard yet! Document then DUMP IT! With the power logger you would also be able to capture the transition from utility to SI for your home auto gusto see if he is able to accept the power quality too. On Oct 12, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Chris Mason wrote: > I recently worked on

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Chris Mason
I recently worked on a Sunny Island/Sunny Boy system in a nearby island, that powered and protected a complete Home Automation system, including the airco system keeping it cool. I had to restart the Sunny Islands to sort out a COMS problem, which revealed some IT issues. It turns out the Sunny Isl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi William, Power quality, in your case, refers to how close to 60 Hz (frequency component), 120/240 VAC RMS (amplitude component) your voltage waveform is. Every waveform is the superposition of different frequencies, amplitudes etc. Power quality requirements for a devices input or output are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Tump
I have in the past have used the Fluke power logger 1735 , It will monitor 1/3 phases voltages spikes/dips in V, A, Hz , +++ AND one is able to print out a time line of all the "occurrences" that may trip the UPS. I rent this from some folks in Texas quite reasonable ~ $230/month or weekly too.

[RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-11 Thread William Miller
Friends: I am still having a pi$$ing match with the company that installed the expensive home entertainment system for a client over the issue of power quality. The UPS beeps frequently and the AV system crashes now and then. The lead installer has copped an attitude and is blaming the Sunny I