Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-06 Thread jay peltz
HI guys, Hate to tell you but someone with a 24v cordless sawzall can have a rack chopped up in minutes, regardless of the mounting hardware. jay peltz power On Mar 5, 2011, at 7:59 AM, Bob-O Schultze wrote: The sad truth is that if a determined, competent thief wants your stuff, it's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-06 Thread Nathan Jones
Jay, You are so right but the tool of choice these days for the sophisticated thief is the cordless angle grinder and a stack of cutting discs from Harbor Freight. There has been a flurry of this tools use here of late. Deadbolts, padlocks, racks, even safes are dispatched in short order. There

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-06 Thread jay peltz
HI Nathan, Ill have to try it myself, the cutting disks that is. But in the end I guess its what insurance is for. On that note, has anyone had any requests or reduction in policy from an insurance company about anti theft hardware? jay peltz power On Mar 6, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Nathan Jones

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-06 Thread Nathan Jones
Jay, I am broadcasting from the Ozark mountains of MO. We have long been known as a prime pot growing mecca. Those guys were a relatively peacable and mellow lot. We are now the meth manufacturing capital of the US, as ranked by number of busts. These guys and their addicted customers are both

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-05 Thread Bob-O Schultze
The sad truth is that if a determined, competent thief wants your stuff, it's likely gone. Fortunately, MOST thieves are neither. I use 1/4 stainless steel pop rivets in a situation like this. It takes a grinder to remove them and steal the PV. With a little luck someone will see the sparks

[RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread Mick Abraham
Hello, we mounted some PV onesy modules as high as we could reach without a man-lift, but an enterprising thief could reach just as high. The side of pole mounts hold the bolt heads captive so I bought some aluminum breakaway nuts. However the nuts have a big diameter which would not fit inside

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread Bill Hoffer
Mick Solar World welds their frame corners, but use a laser with high precision and very low heat. I have seen racks in Haiti welded instead of bolted to keep people from walking off with the entire rack. I would not recommend welding a module frame, Too risky and would probably void warranty.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread R Ray Walters
From the bit of aluminum welding I've done (MIG not the preferred TIG) I'd say it would be pretty hard to do without damaging the laminate. I actually successfully welded attachments to salvage modules back in the 90s. Also the alloys are probably different between the module and rail, so even if

[RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread Dana
. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mick Abraham Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:22 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea? Hello, we mounted some PV onesy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread Allan Sindelar
Mick, Direct Power did this some years ago on a piece of Interstate roadside art. I think it worked quite well to discourage theft. You might want to call DPW for info; I'd talk with Jeff. Allan at Positive Energy On Mar 4, 2011 12:22 PM, Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com wrote: Hello, we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread Nick Soleil
PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea? Mick, Direct Power did this some years ago on a piece of Interstate roadside art. I think it worked quite well to discourage theft. You might want to call DPW for info; I'd talk with Jeff. Allan