Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread William Dorsett
...@schneider-electric.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:19 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Hi: It occurred to me that with all the experience on the Wrenches community, we have a unique opportunity to get perspective on one aspect of battery bank natural aging and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread William Dorsett
, 2015 9:19 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Hi: It occurred to me that with all the experience on the Wrenches community, we have a unique opportunity to get perspective on one aspect of battery bank natural aging and failure. Which cells typically fail first

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread Ray Walters
Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 802-371-8678 cell 802-888-4917 home -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:38 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batterie

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread Jarmo . Venalainen
consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Drake To: RE-wrenches , Date: 08/13/2015 07:03 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Sent by: "RE-wrenches" Most failures have been in one string of 4 or 8 batteries. One failure was in two strings of 4. At 10:26 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread Drake
August 12, 2015 12:03 PM To: <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Hello Wrenches, I have had a number of customers with Trojan L-16s have problems lately. In some cases, I know that the batteries weren'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread jerrysgarage01
is the moving around is the key. Jerry Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Tom at wagonmaker Date:08/12/2015 4:26 PM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries What size are the banks are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread Tom Duffy
renches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:23 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries It does not bode well that Trojan is currently back ordered on at least some AGM batteries until October in order for them to address issues on their manufactu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-13 Thread Dave
alf Of Ray Walters Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:38 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Yes, it seems to be random. The idea that the failures are caused by the wiring or maintenance or anything on the user/ installer side is ludicris. I will also second William'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Ray Walters
Yes, it seems to be random. The idea that the failures are caused by the wiring or maintenance or anything on the user/ installer side is ludicris. I will also second William's comments that Trojan has been less than helpful, and if you're one month past the 2 year warranty: forget about it. Th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Jay
Hi Ray Would that be random dead cells? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Ray Walters wrote: > > Oh I'm going to risk the wrath of Trojan and others, but I can confirm issues > with the Trojan L16 having premature cell failures within a couple of years >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread William Miller
4 hours round trip each to trouble shoot and replace. I will never use Trojan batteries again. William *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Ray Walters *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:45 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread William Miller
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries What size are the banks are are they series/paralleled across the terminals? That can cause one or more cells to fail, generally starting on the negative terminal. The set that failed on me was series/parallel across the terminals, old school, and the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Tom at wagonmaker
overheated and shorted out, killing that string. It’s why I went to buss bars. Tom From: Drake Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:03 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries Hello Wrenches, I have had a number of customers with Trojan L-16s have problems

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Frye
It does not bode well that Trojan is currently back ordered on at least some AGM batteries until October in order for them to address issues on their manufacturing line. On 8/12/2015 6:44 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Oh I'm going to risk the wrath of Trojan and others, but I can confirm issues with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Ray Walters
Oh I'm going to risk the wrath of Trojan and others, but I can confirm issues with the Trojan L16 having premature cell failures within a couple of years just as you reported. We use the T105 RE and have not had problems, but stay away from their L16 line. I otherwise do not know or understan

[RE-wrenches] Trojan Batteries

2015-08-12 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, I have had a number of customers with Trojan L-16s have problems lately. In some cases, I know that the batteries weren't very well cared for, but in no case were the batteries totally discharged and let get cold or sit for a long time. It doesn't seem that the batteries shoul