Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-05 Thread Darryl Thayer
paying 10.00/watt installed and his electric rate is 40 cents/kwh he saves 0.0004$/year/Wp more if you use solid wire. That's 40 cents per 1kW installed. Small indeed Darryl --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Matt Lafferty wrote: > From: Matt Lafferty > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs strande

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-05 Thread Darryl Thayer
Thanks DAve yes I meant 2% more for stranded than the voltage drop for solid. So the number is very small. Your example was right on. Darryl --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Dave Click wrote: > From: Dave Click > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC > To: "RE-wre

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-05 Thread Dave Click
production; that's less than 1 kWh/yr per kW installed. DKC Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC From: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Date: 2009/8/3 20:31 2% loss from any resistance source over 25 years is significant. - Original Me

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-04 Thread Matt Lafferty
RE: 2% loss over 25 years is significant Amen. Sorta makes one wonder how they've allowed and accepted <50% efficient combustion-cycle turbine plants all these years... That's before taking transmission losses of minimum 8%. 24/7 x 365. Matt Lafferty _

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-04 Thread Joel Davidson
2% loss from any resistance source over 25 years is significant. - Original Message - From: "Darryl Thayer" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC Yes, that is what the code book and my e

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Jeff Yago
I just had this "debate" with a reader of one of my articles who was a ham radio operator and a do-it-yourself solar homeowner who insisted stranded wire had a substantial lower resistance than solid wire for DC wiring. After lots of research I discovered he was getting this from his ham radio

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
Yes, that is what the code book and my electricians handbook says, but 2% is very little. I would think that passing through a conduit hole is larger than that. Darryl --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Matt Tritt wrote: > From: Matt Tritt > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs D

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread boB Gudgel
etal surface as this will induce eddy currents and magnetic effects into the metal causing voltage drop and heating. --- On Fri, 7/31/09, jay peltz wrote: From: jay peltz Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 10

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
Mon, 8/3/09, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: > From: Brian Teitelbaum > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:12 PM > Hey Darryl, > > You said - " never allow a single wire to pass through a >

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread boB Gudgel
ind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: "Brian Teitelbaum" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC Hey Darryl, You said - " never

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Matt Tritt
metal surface as this will induce eddy currents and magnetic effects into the metal causing voltage drop and heating. --- On Fri, 7/31/09, jay peltz wrote: From: jay peltz Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 10:01 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Wind-sun.com
s" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC Hey Darryl, You said - " never allow a single wire to pass through a metal surface as this will induce eddy currents and magnetic effects into the metal causing voltage drop and heating&qu

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
AEE Solar -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Darryl Thayer Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:01 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC I looked in the code book

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
rom: jay peltz > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 10:01 PM > Hi Darryl, > > But what are the differences and when do they come into > play? > > > > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 7:25

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-03 Thread Wind-sun.com
t on anything we will do. Darryl --- On Fri, 7/31/09, jay peltz wrote: From: jay peltz Subject: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM HI All, I'm trying to understand this wire issue. Whether or not there is a difference b

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-07-31 Thread boB Gudgel
vs stranded AC vs DC To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM HI All, I'm trying to understand this wire issue. Whether or not there is a difference between stranded or solid wire for DC or AC. Any takers on this one? thanks, j

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-07-31 Thread jay peltz
, jay peltz wrote: From: jay peltz Subject: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM HI All, I'm trying to understand this wire issue. Whether or not there is a difference between stranded or solid wire for DC or AC. Any

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-07-31 Thread Darryl Thayer
Well there is very slight differences between AC and Dc But this difference is so slight that it has no effect on anything we will do. Darryl --- On Fri, 7/31/09, jay peltz wrote: > From: jay peltz > Subject: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC > To: "RE-wrenches" &

[RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-07-31 Thread jay peltz
HI All, I'm trying to understand this wire issue. Whether or not there is a difference between stranded or solid wire for DC or AC. Any takers on this one? thanks, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenc