[REBOL] Re: OT: Flash

2002-02-08 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Ammon, << Sorry, no REBOL content, but someone here has been working on a flash dialect in REBOL? Where did you get the specs to be able to do such a thing? Is it available from Macromedia? >> Oldes is the one doing that. Not sure where he got the info. Maybe he'll jump in here. --Gregg -

[REBOL] Re: OT: Flash

2002-02-08 Thread Brett Handley
The only way I've ever found it on their site is by typing SWF into the search field. http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/open/licensing/fileformat/ Brett. - Original Message - From: "Ammon Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:00

[REBOL] Re: Flash

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 09-Feb-02, Ammon Johnson wrote: > Sorry, no REBOL content, but someone here has been working on a > flash dialect in REBOL? Where did you get the specs to be able to do > such a thing? Is it available from Macromedia? I looked earlier today to see what's available and found this site... http

[REBOL] OT: Flash

2002-02-08 Thread Ammon Johnson
Sorry, no REBOL content, but someone here has been working on a flash dialect in REBOL? Where did you get the specs to be able to do such a thing? Is it available from Macromedia? Thanks!! Ammon _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.c

[REBOL] Re: ANN: New Rugby release + website

2002-02-08 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Few other things: I found inconsistent to use: serve/with tcp://:9005 and then - rexec/with http://localhost:9005 tcp vs http - serve/with should use http://:9005 too, to look more consistent ... What do you think? As for performance - I am a little bit disappointed. I really don't

[REBOL] Re: ANN: New Rugby release + website

2002-02-08 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Maarten Koopmans wrote: >Hi All, > >There is a new Rugby release + website , although minimalistic ;-) >I have added lots of code, and finally removed even more. > >What is Rugby now? >What it was, but only with http transport, that uses compression. Improved >marshaling, security bugs fixed. > >

[REBOL] Re: Project Suggestions

2002-02-08 Thread Izkata
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just thinkin' about ideas, and a script I've been trying to make. It is specifically for people who aren't at home with comupters. Also, I think I made up his name, Tenryo, so sorry if I stole it from someone. A summar

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 09-Feb-02, Joel Neely wrote: > Hi, again, Carl, > Carl Read wrote: >> >> Let's say you got your wish and REBOL was open-sourced and some >> here gave their REBOLs the ability to compare pairs for lesser >> and greater. Now, what's to stop them puting scripts on the Net >> that require those

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 09-Feb-02, Joel Neely wrote: > Hi, Carl, > I must disagree with the assumption that open source software > will "be sure" to fork. (I assume we're talking about the > issue of random incompatibilities due to the uncoordinated > fiddling about of various random individuals, and not the > kind

[REBOL] Re: Flash sets its sights on app development

2002-02-08 Thread Ryan Cole
Scot wrote: > > How do you guys get the general public to purchase/run your commercial Rebol > applications? Do you provide an installation CD or disk with Rebol View on > it, or a link with instructions on how to install it from Rebol.com? > > Scot > Yep, both. The Rebol/View EULA states: -

[REBOL] Re: Flash sets its sights on app development

2002-02-08 Thread Ryan Cole
This is probably good news for RT, as it should help stir up the market. --Ryan Ed O'Connor wrote: > FYI > > Macromedia Has Big Plans for Flash > > > "Macromedia plans to make Flash a platform for > building applications rat

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 09-Feb-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Carl, > with the greatest respect, I have to totally disagree with you here. > When REBOl get's changed or improved or functionality is upgraded do > all changes get upgraded across all platforms immediately? > The historical answer is no! If I remember

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Maarten, Maarten Koopmans wrote: > > Hi Joel, > > As a physicist I may add that computer science is in the > stone ages compared to other natural sciences. Somewhere > round 1500-1600 compared to physics. > There's no question that hardware advances have GREATLY outpaced our grasp on treat

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Romano Paolo Tenca
Hi, Mark, > What I mean by mainstream is that REBOL gains enough traction with users and developers that the market for REBOL products, be this interpreters, applications, books, tutorials, websites etc. becomes more active and self enforcing. Yes, I understand, and agree. But I'm not more sure

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Hi Mark, I agree there as well, but Rebol is some ten years younger than most of the languages you call there. Maybe it just takes time. All of us see the potential of REBOL, yet so few of us release something to attract attention to it. My best shot was Rugby, but it sure is not good enough

[REBOL] Project Suggestions

2002-02-08 Thread Terry Brownell
Hello all. Just thinking about collaborative Rebol projects... and in particular project suggestions. Here's one to get the ball rolling... A visual Rebol programming interface, perhaps similar to Prograph http://www.taylor-design.com/DataLink/Home.htm and along the same lines, perhaps a ps

[REBOL] ANN: New Rugby release + website

2002-02-08 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Hi All, There is a new Rugby release + website , although minimalistic ;-) I have added lots of code, and finally removed even more. What is Rugby now? What it was, but only with http transport, that uses compression. Improved marshaling, security bugs fixed. I invite you all to use it and test

[REBOL] Re: VID : Choice gadget probleme

2002-02-08 Thread Allen Kamp
As alternative to using Choice you could use a drop-down style. You can find it on my R-Forces rebsite. or http://www.rebolforces.com/reb/drop-down.r Cheers, Allen K -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the

[REBOL] Re: Flash sets its sights on app development

2002-02-08 Thread Scot
Very cool. Wonder when it will be available? I'd much prefer to use Rebol, though without a browser plugin the audience is rather limited which makes it hard to justify using for certain applications. When I mentioned that a browser plugin would give Rebol a great boost, here's the unfortunate

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Hi, Romano, What I mean by mainstream is that REBOL gains enough traction with users and developers that the market for REBOL products, be this interpreters, applications, books, tutorials, websites etc. becomes more active and self enforcing. Just a quick look at computer stores / magazines /

[REBOL] Flash sets its sights on app development

2002-02-08 Thread Ed O'Connor
FYI Macromedia Has Big Plans for Flash "Macromedia plans to make Flash a platform for building applications rather than just animations—and to make the Flash player—rather than the browser itself—the primary target for robus

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Hi Joel, As a physicist I may add that computer science is in the stone ages compared to other natural sciences. Somewhere round 1500-1600 compared to physics. Wish there was a Newton available! Succes in this context ;-) was meant to evaluate to short-to-midtime survival via commercial success.

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Romano Paolo Tenca
Hi, Mark > I see new books & tutorials & resources coming out for these other languages all the time. I love REBOL and it's potential but i think it's losing the battle to become mainstream and part of the reason for that I believe is it's closed proprietary nature. I'm not sure this is the goal

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Maarten, Maarten Koopmans wrote: > > There is no link between benevolent dictators and success. > There is no link between open source and success (Delphi, VB, ...) > Let me suggest that there's not a single yardstick for "success". There are certainly some measures by which some people wo

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, again, Carl, Carl Read wrote: > > Let's say you got your wish and REBOL was open-sourced and some > here gave their REBOLs the ability to compare pairs for lesser > and greater. Now, what's to stop them puting scripts on the Net > that require those comparisons? > Absolutely nothing. Exce

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Maarten, Your quite right that there is no guarenteed formula for success, however is will say one thing about the advantage of open source over proprietary software for software users. OPEN source software doesn't die with the company that produced it but thousands on proprietary programs hav

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Maarten Koopmans
There is no link between benevolent dictators and success. There is no link between open source and success (Delphi, VB, ...) --Maaten > Carl, > > what you say may be true if indeed people used non standard interpreters / protocols or whatever for REBOL or any other internet messaging & communi

[REBOL] [Fwd: Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes]

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, all, Apropos of recent open/closed discussions (oops! that's a binary distinction!) I thought we could all use a laugh... Chris Hanneken wrote: > > I think you'll appreciate this. > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatents.html > -- ; sub REBOL {}; sub head ($) {@_[0]} REB

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Neely
Hi, Carl, I must disagree with the assumption that open source software will "be sure" to fork. (I assume we're talking about the issue of random incompatibilities due to the uncoordinated fiddling about of various random individuals, and not the kind of version-to-version evolution -- and occas

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Carl, with the greatest respect, I have to totally disagree with you here. When REBOl get's changed or improved or functionality is upgraded do all changes get upgraded across all platforms immediately? The historical answer is no! REBOL/View was introduced only on certain platforms which is

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 08-Feb-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The internet is based on agreed communication standards and > protocols & functionality regardless of whether your working in > REBOL, Perl, Python, JAVA or Microsoft DotNet. I was talking about REBOL scripts, not Net protocols. Let's say you got your wi

[REBOL] Re: Ordering, Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Hi ladislav, Maybe I / we have as Joel termed it a too puritanical view with regards too such things as language consistency or notions of "correctness" with regards to mathematical or numeric behaviour & numbering systems. Gregg talked about "conceptual integrity" and I agree that conceptual

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Carl, what you say may be true if indeed people used non standard interpreters / protocols or whatever for REBOL or any other internet messaging & communications system. Of course you have to have an agreed standards & protocols otherwise the whole internet wouldn't function. Perl & Python bo

[REBOL] Re: strange installation on Mac OS 9

2002-02-08 Thread SunandaDH
Hi there, > When trying to install Rebol View, I have this message : > > "Script error: teller has no value" > "where : save-user" > "near: teller "unable to save settings in your user.r file" none" > "press enter to quit Whenever I've had that the answer has been because a version of Rebo

[REBOL] Re: VID : Choice gadget probleme

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 08-Feb-02, Stéphane Didierjean wrote: > hi, > I have a problem with my choice gadget. > I have more than 47 elements in that gadget and I can > only see 30 of it. How can I add a slider or something > to select the other one ? Is it possible ? Is it a bug > ? I don't know how you'd add a sli

[REBOL] Ordering, Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Ladislav Mecir
Hi all, as I (and Joel) see it, RT decided to support a default ordering in Rebol. That ordering is used for sorting purposes. Properties of the default ordering: 1) some values aren't ordered: a: [] insert/only a a 0 b: [] insert/only b b 0 sort reduce [a b] 0 2) The order

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Carl Read
On 08-Feb-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maarten / Gregg > The good thing about benevolent dictators for example Linus Torvalds > (Linux), Larry Wall (Perl), Guido Van Rossum (Python) is that they > make their program / project source code available, that is why they > are benevolent. Yes they st

[REBOL] strange installation on Mac OS 9

2002-02-08 Thread Gwen Caradec | NYMPHEA
When trying to install Rebol View, I have this message : "Script error: teller has no value" "where : save-user" "near: teller "unable to save settings in your user.r file" none" "press enter to quit" -- Gwen Gwen Caradec | NYMPHEA -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to

[REBOL] VID : Choice gadget probleme

2002-02-08 Thread Stéphane Didierjean
hi, I have a problem with my choice gadget. I have more than 47 elements in that gadget and I can only see 30 of it. How can I add a slider or something to select the other one ? Is it possible ? Is it a bug ? Thanks Stephane PS : Is someone have a doc about all the VID gadget attributs ? ___

[REBOL] Re: VID focus questions

2002-02-08 Thread Brett Handley
Duh! Sorry for this extra post - my last post had a working function but stuffed up checksum. Brett. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Maarten / Gregg The good thing about benevolent dictators for example Linus Torvalds (Linux), Larry Wall (Perl), Guido Van Rossum (Python) is that they make their program / project source code available, that is why they are benevolent. Yes they strictly control and decide upon what goes into t

[REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread

2002-02-08 Thread Robbo1Mark
Maarten / Gregg The good thing about benevolent dictators for example Linus Torvalds (Linux), Larry Wall (Perl), Guido Van Rossum (Python) is that they make their program / project source code available, that is why they are benevolent. Yes they strictly control and decide upon what goes into t

[REBOL] Re: VID focus questions

2002-02-08 Thread Brett Handley
I wrote: > I noticed the back-field problem too, but it only occurs if the check box is > first in the face, put a text in front > of it and there is no problem. I guess the code for back-field has a slight > bug. The code is very small so a fix should be easy. I've made a fix (will send it to f