Hi Behrang,
BS> According to the messages sent to the list I learned
BS> that REBOL is not OO. But it doesn't look to be
BS> procedural or something else too. Isn't it an instance
BS> of a new yet to be named paradigm??
RT calls it a "messaging" language. My favorite definition is that
it's "des
Hi Behrang,
BS> In the section about the tuples in quickstart it's not
BS> stated that a tuple must at least have 3 elements.
And they can have up to 10 elements.
BS> So I said to myself "there should be some ambiguity
BS> between decimals and tuples" although I was sure that
BS> I'm wrong.
Le
Hi Matt,
MM> ...if there is a way to use an alternate GUI designer, such as Visual
MM> Basic or C++ and have it access some underlying REBOL functionality. I know
MM> that using /view/pro you can access C++ classes and libraries, but what I
MM> want to do is kindof backwards to that. Any inpu
Hi
The Docs and Tutorials are awesome compared to many
other languages/tools/compilers docs but are very
informal.
In the section about the tuples in quickstart it's not
stated that a tuple must at least have 3 elements. So
I said to myself "there should be some ambiguity
between decimals and tu
Hi Volker
> Yes, the example is misleading. you need the full
> filename for target.
> write/binary
> ftp://xxx:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/wwwdocs/behrangsa.png
> read/binary %behrangsa.png
> should work.
> and if behind firewall system/schemes/ftp/passive:
> true
Thanks. It worked.
Behrang.
_
It is easy to find somethings out from the console:
type? 1.1
type? 1.1.2
If it is an object then you can probe it to find out information:
a: make object! [b: "test" c: 12 d: 1.87]
probe a
probe a/d
type? a/d
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You were right Ashley,
REBOL needs at least 3 components.
I never tried before but it seemed to be so natural ...
in fact REBOL fooled me this time but I will remember the lesson
Next time I will try before submitting my answer!
Regards,
Gerard
- Original Message -
From: "Ashley Trüter"
Hi again,
Without knowing much I think 1.1 is a decimal but nevertheless
it can be used for both datatypes. However you'll have to use
the 'to-tuple word to ask REBOL to convert the decimal
to the second one as is :
my-tuple: to-tuple 1.1
print type? my-tuple
May be others can help better,
Hi,
I would first try putting a filename after the Folder name or put a terminating /
to specify REBOL wwwdocs is a folder name (by convention I think REBOL
is waiting for a / after a folder name)
HTH,
Gerard
- Original Message -
From: "Behrang Saeedzadeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EM
Behrang S. wrote:
> In the oneliners section I saw the following code snippet for transferring
a file via ftp protocol:
>
> write/binary ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> read/binary %file
>
> I have a file called behrangsa.png (I have copied it to the view
directory) and I want to send it to the mac
"Petr Krenzelok" wrote:
> sorry to snip your whole talk about Vanilla. While Vanilla or Wiki,
> whatever may be nice design to study, I think you overestimate its
> usefullness for Rebol. I am sorry to very strongly back-up Robert's pov,
> but I can bet that if free version of IOS like sync mecha
Behrang wrote:
> Is, for example, 1.1 a tuple or a decimal?
Let's ask Rebol:
>> type? 1.1
== decimal!
According to Rebol, 1.1 is a decimal value.
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Hi Sunanda,
you wrote this :
==
> The other thing that is vital with this sort of application is not just
> availability checking (have we got what they've asked for?) but also the automatic
> offering of alternatives.
>
> In your example, the system should automatically offer these sort
Am Dienstag 13 Januar 2004 01:21 schrieb Behrang Saeedzadeh:
> Hi
>
> In the oneliners section I saw the following code
> snippet for transferring a file via ftp protocol:
>
> write/binary ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> read/binary %file
>
> I have a file called behrangsa.png (I have copied it
> t
> Is, for example, 1.1 a tuple or a decimal?
Decimal, a tuple must have at least three components. Perhaps pair! is
what you want? ;)
Regards,
Ashley
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Is, for example, 1.1 a tuple or a decimal?
Thanks.
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> JC> ...whether it behaves differently or if its
> sytnax is consistent
> JC> or not with their expectations and the parent
> language.
>
> People don't have to know that a dialect has a
> "parent language".
> What's important is that all the similarities you
> *can* leverage with
> embedded
Hi
In the oneliners section I saw the following code
snippet for transferring a file via ftp protocol:
write/binary ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
read/binary %file
I have a file called behrangsa.png (I have copied it
to the view directory) and I want to send it to the
machine where my site is ho
Jason Cunliffe wrote:
>Hi Gerard
>
>
>
>>I didn't find any info about this REBOLDOC project on Robert's website
>>
>>
>(Saw an
>
>
>>OpenDOC entry but nothing else)
>>
>>
>
>...perhaps this explains
>http://www.rebol.net/list/list-msgs/30437.html
>
>Regarding Vanilla. First, good idea
Monday, January 12, 2004, 2:35:51 PM, Romano wrote:
>> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is REBOL Object Oriented?
> Yes, like Self:
> http://research.sun.com/self/language.html
Or maybe rather not like Self as REBOL misses Self's crucial
capability for inheritance (Self's parent slots).
Matt wrote:
> I want to know is, because REBOL is so good at what it does (internet
communication, encryption, database access, etc.) but the GUI of /view is
lacking, if there is a way to use an alternate GUI designer, such as Visual
Basic or C++ and have it access some underlying REBOL functional
Hi Gerard
> I didn't find any info about this REBOLDOC project on Robert's website
(Saw an
> OpenDOC entry but nothing else)
...perhaps this explains
http://www.rebol.net/list/list-msgs/30437.html
Regarding Vanilla. First, good idea to post Vanilla questions to the
dedicated
list "vanilla-puddi
Jason wrote:
> Generally dialects and local uses of parse seem to emerge from some direct
need. Some job grows really repetitious or lengthy. So a dialect can help
simplify the code keep focus to the task at hand.
I agree. I had the need to generate lots of HTML, and I couldn't bear the
thought o
HI Gerard,
> Just to give you an idea of the involved difficulties, imagine
> a customer that phones at the arena and want to know if
> he can take a reservation one time each week for the next
> 12 weeks preferably during the wednesday evenings.
> This should not be of a real problem if the 12 w
> JC> Designing Rebol dialects is not easy.
>
> Agreed 100%.
>
> Good post. Every time dialects come up this way, it makes me think, and
re-think, how I want to explain them to people, why I think they're
important, etc. So, thanks!
I totally agree. I keep revising my dialects to better fit the d
This is sort of a late addendum to the post about REBOL being behind. What
I want to know is, because REBOL is so good at what it does (internet
communication, encryption, database access, etc.) but the GUI of /view is
lacking, if there is a way to use an alternate GUI designer, such as Visual
Hi Gerard
> http://www.vydra.net/esl/paper/
Thanks I'll look into it.
> May be someone has yet to write the ultimate book that will permit every
programmer that wants to do some steps in this way to be
> able to do so ... by itself - as easily as it can be done !
There is no 'ultimate' - just
Hi Jason,
After your Jabber ref. I went to their main site and will probably try it soon just to
see how it works for real exchanging.
I also got another ref. that could be of some interest to you about extensible
scripting languages (ESL)
http://www.vydra.net/esl/paper/ . Found this one from
Jason wrote:
> Where to get ML and what do I need to do know to get started to using it?
I've sent a reply to you directly, containing all you need, along with a
copy for Gerard.
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Hi Volker and Gabriele,
for your help.
I'll try to experiment with that too in my own context !
Regards,
Gerard
> VN> How about [ call/output "rebol --cgi script.r" ] ? should write to output?
>
> Hmm, -c does not work in a MS-DOS window, but does with
> CALL/OUTPUT. That's good to
It's ok here
Carlos
Em Dom 11 Jan 2004 15:57, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> last two days I am not able to connect to AltME properly. It worked
> yesterday in the evening, but is not working whole day today once again.
> Anyone else got problems connecting to AltME?
>
> thanks,
> -pekr-
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Hi Joel,
Joel wrote:
...
> Answering this modified question would require addressing some
> of the following issues:
>
> 1) REBOL is a dynamically-typed language. This is familiar
> territory if you are used to Smalltalk, Python, or Perl;
> It may take some adjustment if y
ZikZak,
What flavor of REBOL are you using for programming CGI? REBOL/Core?
Carlos
Em Dom 11 Jan 2004 17:09, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a beginner with Rebol and im' trying to test the cgi of the tutorial :
>
> #!/www/cgi/rebol -c
> REBOL [Title: "Server Time"]
> print "content-type: text/html^/"
> I hope many of my posts recently appear too critical or negative lately.
arggh sorry bad edit type -- that should be:
"I hope many of my posts recently DON'T appear too critical or negative
lately."
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Hi Jason,
Just some comments, not criticisms, just my perspective.
JC> ...rebol dialects really have not been tested and used my large
JC> numbers of people in complex apps, so we donlt know yet the
JC> deeper implications of using them.
As Gabriele said, Domain Specific Languages are definite
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Volker wrote:
...snip...
> The more complex lacks teaching. And dialects lacks experience which
teaching
> too. It seems stuff like the cookbook works better than traditional
bibles.
..snip..
Wow. Great reply. Volker thank you. I need more time to absorb.
When I say that Rebol is more write-abl
Hi Gabriele,
Gabriele wrote:
==
> GC> 2. The Call/output doesn't seem to create and fill the
> GC> expected file with the results outputted when used - an empty
> GC> file is created
> GC> and nothing else.
>
> CALL/OUTPUT actually works correctly on Windows. You can also
> redirect
Hi Volker,
- Original Message -
Volker Wrote:
> > call/output "E:\Installation de logiciel\REBOL\View 1.3 - Betas
> > testing\rebview1224031.exe -s xcode.r" %results.txt print read %results.txt
>
> first look: can you check for whitespace-handling? i would expect you need ""
> arou
Hi Petr
- Original Message -
Petr wrote:
> yes, we did it that way - start /wait . do not remember if console
> window stays open or not though ... try to run console ("cmd" command
> under W2K/XP and type "start /?" for help - you will find some nice
> functions parameters ther
Hi Volker,
Thanks for the many suggestions you offered. I had already thought about the first one
but I forgot in the process. For being able
to keep up with the second one I will have to learn a bit more about View and DIV but
it seems like the best way to go at first
sight. I also see an int
Hi Petr,
IIRC I already tested it and saw no difference. But I'll try the many suggestions
Volker offered me and I'll come back soon.
Thanks,
Gerard
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From: "Petr Krenzelok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:11 AM
Subject: [
Hi Volker,
On Monday, January 12, 2004, 4:27:37 PM, you wrote:
VN> How about [ call/output "rebol --cgi script.r" ] ? should write to output?
Hmm, -c does not work in a MS-DOS window, but does with
CALL/OUTPUT. That's good to know. :-)
>> call/output {rebol.exe -c --do "print 'hello
Am Montag 12 Januar 2004 11:52 schrieb Gabriele Santilli:
> Hi Gerard,
>
> REBOL does not send output to STDOUT on Windows, so CALL/OUTPUT on
> REBOL itself isn't useful.
>
How about [ call/output "rebol --cgi script.r" ] ? should write to output?
>
> Regards,
>Gabriele.
-Volker
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Am Sonntag 11 Januar 2004 22:56 schrieb Jason Cunliffe:
> > function. There is much more to using it than meets the eye. And I
> > believe not yet enough examples or use of dialects for most people to
> > understand
>
> yet
>
> > the long-term implication of the idea or how well this works in real
Hi, Behrang,
Behrang Saeedzadeh wrote:
>
> ... is REBOL Object Oriented?
>
As you can tell from the variety of responses, the question
is a bit tricky to handle. Unfortunately, the phrase "object
oriented" has been siezed on by marketers, reporters, comp
sci researchers, methodologists, consu
Hi,
> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is REBOL
> Object Oriented?
Yes, like Self:
http://research.sun.com/self/language.html
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Assuming that you have a jabber server, running on port 5222 installed
on a server named APACHES you can get to it over telnet and send the
following:
this will return
notice that these are not well formed xml streams, they become well
formed when you close the streams by sending
at which
There were two bits of work to make a Win95 look and feel
One by Frank at his FX5 site. I think his code is now "offline".
And the other by Doc Kimble. Here is the quote from the REBOL site
http://www.rebol.com/pre-view.html
{Windows 95 Skin
Size: 28 KB (multiple files)
We were totally blo
Hi Gerard,
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, 10:48:35 PM, you wrote:
GC> 2. The Call/output doesn't seem to create and fill the
GC> expected file with the results outputted when used - an empty
GC> file is created
GC> and nothing else.
CALL/OUTPUT actually works correctly on Windows. You can al
Am Sonntag 11 Januar 2004 22:48 schrieb Gerard Cote:
> Hi list,
> call/output "E:\Installation de logiciel\REBOL\View 1.3 - Betas
> testing\rebview1224031.exe -s xcode.r" %results.txt print read %results.txt
first look: can you check for whitespace-handling? i would expect you need ""
around th
Hi ZikZak,
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, 8:09:51 PM, you wrote:
Z> Can you explain to me where is the problem ?
As Andrew said, you should use Core and not View. But not because
View needs installation, rather that error means that View can't
connect to the X server (that is, you don't ge
Volker Nitsch wrote:
>Am Samstag 10 Januar 2004 23:46 schrieb Gerard Cote:
>
>
>>Hi Volker,
>>
>>Since I saw your name on the discussion about the CALL mechanism included
>>in View, can you tell me if it will be possible to permit under Windows
>>that a DOS execution Window to stay open after t
Am Sonntag 11 Januar 2004 18:52 schrieb Behrang Saeedzadeh:
> Hi
>
> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is REBOL
> Object Oriented?
>
i would call it OE, object enabled. its harder to use than "native" rebol.
that is, its as hard as OO-only ;)
when comming from OO, i would say: patterns are
Hi Behrang,
Am Sonntag 11 Januar 2004 12:20 schrieb Behrang Saeedzadeh:
> Hi
>
> I'm a Java developer and a REBOL beginner. I just
> wanted to know how can I add menu bars and tool bars
> to a REBOL view.
>
> Thanks.
>
This looks ugly, but quick to code and works like menues and toolbars.
(if yo
Am Samstag 10 Januar 2004 23:46 schrieb Gerard Cote:
> Hi Volker,
>
> Since I saw your name on the discussion about the CALL mechanism included
> in View, can you tell me if it will be possible to permit under Windows
> that a DOS execution Window to stay open after the launched command exec is
>
Gerard Cote wrote:
>Oups! I forgot to join the entire file as a reference to those interested.
>Here it is.
>
>Regards,
>Gerard
>
>P.S. I also looked back to the REBOL Command SHELL interface (Official Docs) and it
>seems that one way to let REBOL do leave an
>executed console window opened wou
Hi Jason,
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, 10:56:22 PM, you wrote:
JC> I was not trolling. And I am certainly not against dialects. Simply stating
JC> the situation as I see it - rebol dialects really have not been tested and
JC> used my large numbers of people in complex apps, so we donlt know yet
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