[REBOL] Re: [Ann] Mailing list archive - a new home

2004-01-15 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Jason Cunliffe wrote: http://203.79.110.37/rebolml/ Bravo !! Thanks guys... can't wait till you add search etc. the question is, if it would not be easier to resubscribe to escribe? It has common interface, good search, is known etc. -pekr- -Jason -- To unsubscribe from

[REBOL] Re: [Ann] Mailing list archive - a new home

2004-01-15 Thread A J Martin
pekr wrote: the question is, if it would not be easier to resubscribe to escribe? It has common interface, good search, is known etc. I tried doing that but... Quote from http://www.escribe.com/: We only carry mailing lists that request this service (by the mailing list owner

[REBOL] Re: Temporal data [was is REBOL OO]

2004-01-15 Thread Gabriele Santilli
Hi SunandaDH, On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, 7:21:39 PM, you wrote: Sac But it makes it much harder (I won't say impossible, or someone will email in Sac a char-xor function) to do boolean operations. You could use a binary! and use the characters #{00} and #{01}; then you can easily use

[REBOL] Re: [Ann] Mailing list archive - a new home

2004-01-15 Thread SunandaDH
Thanks to Brett and Jason and Gerard and Pekr for the replies. A couple of comments: Jason: can't wait till you add search etc. This may be halfway usable in a couple of weeks. There's a three-stage plan: 1. Link to the ML archive from REBOL.org to make this new feature live. I'll do that

[REBOL] Re: interpreter crash with 'unique and list!

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Tretter
What is interesting is that it didnt break on my first attempt but I pasted it a second time in the interpreter and then it gave the same error. So I'm thinking its something to do with the memory management. Paul Tretter - Original Message - From: Tim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[REBOL] Re: interpreter crash with 'unique and list!

2004-01-15 Thread Andreas Bolka
Thursday, January 15, 2004, 4:32:56 PM, Paul wrote: What is interesting is that it didnt break on my first attempt but I pasted it a second time in the interpreter and then it gave the same error. So I'm thinking its something to do with the memory management. Jup, just use larger sizes

[REBOL] Re: can't connect to AltME ....

2004-01-15 Thread Michael J. Mastroianni
Hi all, A little off topic: Is anyone else having problems w/ the Alt-ME server ? Our hosted world is down, and we cannot see the REBOL world as well -- otherwise our internet connectivity is fine ... Thanks, Mike Michael Mastroianni President, Fluent Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[REBOL] Re: can't connect to AltME ....

2004-01-15 Thread Tom Conlin
yes, it was down over the weekend and is down again this morning it would be very nice if altme clients had a fallback mechinism to find worlds (last connected, any previous, hand specified ...) so altme.com was not a single point of failure it is now. it is definatly eroding trust. I have just

[REBOL] Re: can't connect to AltME ....

2004-01-15 Thread Tom Conlin
One other note about when altme.com starts resolving worlds again. You may still have to restart your worlds for them to be usable (which is a pain for those who are not anywhere near the machines the world runs on) On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Michael J. Mastroianni wrote: Hi all, A little off

[REBOL] Re: [Ann] Mailing list archive - a new home

2004-01-15 Thread Jason Cunliffe
Good news :-) Escribe interface sucks. Never a great help to Rebol either. Yes rebol driven archive with good Google hooks seems like an excellent remedy. thanks - Jason -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
I REALLLY need to get view refresh more quickly. I know we all bitch about its slowness, I've got a few tricks, but I have to do an interactive application which is drawing one single line interactively. the simple mouse down to start and mouse up to draw a line. my canvas has to be

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Dide
Re: [view] accelerating view... Hi Max I REALLLY need to get view refresh more quickly. The 'eat function from Romano and Gabrielle is here for that. Not sure it's the last version (not found on his web page), but here is one : eat-ctx: context [ free: true set 'eat

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
I should say that I did tests on a super easy vid script: count: 100 s: now/time/precise repeat i count [ off: 10x1 off/y: i * 5 ui/effect: compose/deep [gradient 1x0 0.0.0 222.222.222] ;ui/effect: compose/deep [draw [pen white line (off) 1000x500]] show

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Roland Hadinger
hi max, On Thursday 15 January 2004 19:47, you wrote: can you guys give me some of your tricks to improve refresh speeds in any interactive apps? Perhaps you could use something like: http://home.arcor.de/roland.hadinger/rebol/includes/guard.r A demo of using guard to control recursive

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Maxim, MOA can you guys give me some of your tricks to improve refresh MOA speeds in any interactive apps? Don't refresh on every mouse move. Romano and Gabriele's EAT event-compressor approach can work well, but you can try other things as well (e.g. refresh based on a timer). You can

[REBOL] Re: interpreter crash with 'unique and list!

2004-01-15 Thread Tim Johnson
* Andreas Bolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040115 08:05]: Thursday, January 15, 2004, 4:32:56 PM, Paul wrote: What is interesting is that it didnt break on my first attempt but I pasted it a second time in the interpreter and then it gave the same error. So I'm thinking its something to do

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Max, MOA my computer gives me 17 frames a second... but this should be MOA like 2... MOA I mean, one line on a plain background. Big faces are slow to refresh; that's all there is to it. Whether you've got a plain background or not--of course adding lots of effects will slow things

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
tried the eat function... it does seem to help a bit, but I get this error all the time... ** Script Error: awake has no value ** Where: eat ** Near: awake only I'm using 1.2.10 is that an issue? merci :-) -MAx --- You can either be part of the problem or part of the solution, but in the

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
hi, disregard my previous mail about eat... I went hunting on rebol.org and found the mouth full I needed... The complete 'Eat tool was on the site, it is working, and yes, it IS helping in removing the lag. But my app still stutters. ;-) On the upside, many of the users have a (much)

[REBOL] Re: interpreter crash with 'unique and list!

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Tretter
Actually, RT does maintain a bug list from the Feedback's. Maybe its not in their interests to publish that even though it would be of great interest to us. I think as long as anyone finds a bug they copy it to this list we can at least search for it. Maybe we should try to have a subj format

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Paul Tretter
I think if you really want performance than you should use lower level view functionaly and stay away from 'layout and build your own faces. I'm curious of anyone has built a comparision of the performance. Paul Tretter - Original Message - From: Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
hi paul, that is a worthy assumption but in reality, VID and face really are the same beast. This specific problem is 100% face only driven. But in reality, it does not make any difference, because vid is really only a layout engine. It adds a few higher-level gizmos, but still uses the

[REBOL] Re: interpreter crash with 'unique and list!

2004-01-15 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Paul, PT Actually, RT does maintain a bug list from the Feedback's. Maybe its not in PT their interests to publish that even though it would be of great interest to PT us. I think as long as anyone finds a bug they copy it to this list we can PT at least search for it. A while back, a few

[REBOL] Re: [view] accelerating view...

2004-01-15 Thread Ashley Trter
Hi Max, I use code like the following to benchmark pre and post draw FPS: code REBOL [] img-size: 1024x768 img: to-image layout [origin 0 box img-size blue form img-size] view/new/options center-face layout [ origin 0 i: image img img-size effect [none] ;draw [circle