[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-17 Thread Chris
#Sunday 17 March 2002 14:07# Message from Don Cox: > On 15-Mar-02, Steve Shireman wrote: > > > Alan says that the mainstream software is very "brittle" and does not > > scale well. Are you brave enough to enter a house built using the > > techniques that "modern" software engineers are using to b

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-17 Thread Don Cox
On 15-Mar-02, Steve Shireman wrote: > Alan says that the mainstream software is very "brittle" and does not > scale well. Are you brave enough to enter a house built using the > techniques that "modern" software engineers are using to build > software? > (Of course not!) This results from inappr

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-17 Thread Steve Shireman
Jason, by "rocks" I meant all of the following: [ "high-tech-cool" "you are Peter, and upon this rock I build my..." "solid as a rock" "rock and roll is here to stay"] since rocks are very commonly incoporated into architecture, especially ones that last. Rebol takes the fragile-ness out of I

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-17 Thread Jason Cunliffe
> I think Steve is referring here to IOS. It's hard to explain it, but it is > really great stuff, and is changing the way I think about a lot of design, > development, and communication issues. Yes I imagend that's the bit I want to hear.. why great? what changes etc.. Has any one articulated

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-16 Thread Carl Read
On 16-Mar-02, Petr Krenzelok wrote: > Porter Woodward wrote: >> Personally, I'm a huge fan of Mozilla 0.98+ (now .99) and IE 5/6. >> Both browsers are fast, render pages well, and very compatible with >> one another. NS 4.x version are all terrible - as a web >> applications developer, it's a ma

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-16 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Jason, << Would someone please step up and describe to me lucidly what makes Rebol "the architecture for the Internet that rocks" >> I think Steve is referring here to IOS. It's hard to explain it, but it is really great stuff, and is changing the way I think about a lot of design, developmen

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-16 Thread Petr Krenzelok
Porter Woodward wrote: >Personally, I'm a huge fan of Mozilla 0.98+ (now .99) and IE 5/6. Both >browsers are fast, render pages well, and very compatible with one another. >NS 4.x version are all terrible - as a web applications developer, it's a >major hassle to code for NS 4.x - both in terms

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Jason Cunliffe
> Alan says that the mainstream software is very "brittle" and does not > scale well. Are you brave enough to enter a house built using the > techniques that "modern" software engineers are using to build software? > (Of course not!) ..well if my house is an igloo, who do you reckon I should ca

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Christian Morency
Hi, > The reasons that Netscape and Internet Explorer have become unusable and > unstable (so users have upgradaphobia) roots itself in something I heard > Alan Kay say in a video talk, "The Computer Revolution Hasn't Started > Yet" which Jim Collas has never returned to me ;-( Even though it so

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Steve Shireman
You're both wrong and you're both right. The reasons that Netscape and Internet Explorer have become unusable and unstable (so users have upgradaphobia) roots itself in something I heard Alan Kay say in a video talk, "The Computer Revolution Hasn't Started Yet" which Jim Collas has never retur

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Ryan Cole
inux users. " > > I rest my case. > > TB > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:52 AM > Subject: [REBOL] Re: Browser gripe > > > Brett: > > > The browser share

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Porter Woodward
Ryan, - Original Message - From: "Ryan Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > AOL's and M$ business plans appear to be heading into direct conflict, M$ with > hailstorm and AOL with Red Hat. I dont see AOL wanting to depend on M$ for > even a dial tone. If AOL does decide to keep using IE for AOL

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe was - Re: Serial Communications - GPS Sings!

2002-03-15 Thread Adrian
Have you tried Konqueror? - Original Message - From: Brett Handley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: [REBOL] Browser gripe was - Re: Serial Communications - GPS Sings! > Hmm Like Joel I'm using Netscape. I did try to load Netsc

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread SunandaDH
Terry: > "But don't hold your breath. No AOL employee we have talked to, at any > level, claims knowledge of any current or future plans to offer AOL client > software for Linux users. " > > I rest my case. I think the point to take from this is that AOL are dismissing Linux as a minority i

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Terry Brownell
CTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:52 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: Browser gripe > Brett: > > The browser share statistics were interesting and powerful (interestingly > > the statistics seem to encouraging more sites to be unreadable in > Netscape). &g

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Terry Brownell
March 15, 2002 6:52 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: Browser gripe > Brett: > > The browser share statistics were interesting and powerful (interestingly > > the statistics seem to encouraging more sites to be unreadable in > Netscape). > > That said though, I reject (working with

[REBOL] Re: Browser gripe

2002-03-15 Thread SunandaDH
Brett: > The browser share statistics were interesting and powerful (interestingly > the statistics seem to encouraging more sites to be unreadable in Netscape). > That said though, I reject (working within my limited webpage capability) > locking off access to non-IE users to codeconscious.co