Hey Jeff,
Didn't know you were a physicist too :)
ops, blown my cover...
--Maarten
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>
>
> Hello, EA
Hello, EAT:
> don't knock it, genius is heaven born. i happen to know
> that it is possible to design and build an npmg (near
> perpetual motion generator) ...
You've aroused my curiosity... how NEAR to perpetual motion are we
talking? Like almost perpetual? Real close to perpetual? J
Strange.
Do you have a different calendar system where you live?
1st of April has long passed in this part of the world :)
Gisle
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Paul Tretter wrote:
>
> Coming soon! Image putting greater than 3600 CD's worth of data on a floppy disk.
>Or take a Gigabyte worth of data
Ryan Cole wrote:
>
> Joel Neely wrote:
>
>
> >
> > ... Although the sequence "3/7" is a valid encoding for...
> >
> > 0.42857142857142857142857142857142857142857142857...
> >
> > ... I challenge you to find an equally compact encoding for...
> >
> > 0.4285714285714285714285714285714285
Have faith in the impossible?
Next thing you'll be telling us is XML is the answer to the semantic web!
:)
TBrownell
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Subje
Joel Neely wrote:
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> It doesn't matter. Although the sequence "3/7" is a valid encoding
> for the infinite message
>
> 0.42857142857142857142857142857142857142857142857...
>
> (and therefore highly efficient ;-) I challenge you to find an
> equally compact encoding for the highly-similar m
don't knock it, genius is heaven born. i happen to know
that it is possible to design and build an npmg (near
perpetual motion generator) ... such things break all the
rules and do not conform to how anyone sees anything "today".
watch, this compression utility will work and it will be
fast
It's a good thing this thread was posted to the REBOL mailing list
instead of a hard-core tech list like cypherpunks (at least before
it got covered over with spam). Those folks had NO patience with
technical faux pas nor naiveté.
First, let's remember the difference between lossy and lossless
(
Terry Brownell wrote:
> That's like saying how many megs of data can Pi produce.
>
> TBrownell
Exactly my point. So far it seems to be an awful lot.
I would say the real problem is that 3 bytes can only contain about 1.7
million different combinations, so at maximum, only that number of
docume
That's like saying how many megs of data can Pi produce.
TBrownell
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> While I tend to think Paul
While I tend to think Paul is mistaken, take in mind that fractal
generators may be infinitely small compared to the data that they can
produce. 3 / 7 is liberally 3 bytes, how many megs of data can it
produce?
--Ryan
Terry Brownell wrote:
> 2000 megs = 400 bytes or
> 20 megs = 4 bytes
>
> Eve
2000 megs = 400 bytes or
20 megs = 4 bytes
Even the word "vapour" as in "vapourware" is 6 bytes.
T Brownell
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Heya Paul,
PT> I tried talking to math professionals looking for an answer but
PT> couldnt get one.
None of them explained the laws of entropy to you then?
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When can I buy a copy?
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From: Paul Tretter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Wow that sounds like a big number. Actually though its more like 65
terabytes given some of REBOL&#
much more agressively with a prototype.
Paul Tretter
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> Paul,
> I am sure you can understand that most peopl
Heya Paul,
PT> Actually I expected that kind of remark. :) I also expect more of the same
PT> and looked in the mirror several times asking similiar questions.
Don't worry, the effects wear off after awhile.
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Well, best of luck! At least make C|Net aware of your compression utility
and give REBOL lots of credit.
:)
Paul wrote...
However, I for example put an
entire CD image on a website (compress to less than 400 bytes) then
download
it over a dialup line and uncompress it very easily with very litt
Paul,
I am sure you can understand that most people have a hard time believing you, as you
may have guessed. If I did not know you, I would be be laughing at you. Bypassing
argument of whether or not you are correct, how far have you gotten? What sort of
time does it to compress something? G
From: "Terry Brownell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I find this a bit hard to swallow.
>
> 2,340 Gigabytes on one floppy?
>
> Pull that one off SUCCESSFULLY and I'
t;
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Compression
> Heya Paul,
>
> PT> Imagine with 400 byes of compressed data (representing a gig or
> PT> more) what this could mean to handheld devices like portable mp3
> PT> players or digital cameras. The
Heya Paul,
PT> Imagine with 400 byes of compressed data (representing a gig or
PT> more) what this could mean to handheld devices like portable mp3
PT> players or digital cameras. The capablity to store your entire mp3
PT> collection in a portable device.
Is it especially good crack where you co
I find this a bit hard to swallow.
2,340 Gigabytes on one floppy?
Pull that one off SUCCESSFULLY and I'll see you get the Nobel Prize.
T Brownell
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