Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
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Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11:47 16 Mar 2002, Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 09:43, Rick Warner wrote: | On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: | Um ... Rick, you can turn that off. See the sshd man page for | AllowTcpForwarding. | | Ummm, David, I can turn it off on

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Simpson wrote: Personally I would opt for the allow outbound ssh to a set of trusted users approach if possible. At my workplace we're fairly fortunate; most of our users are either category 1, and thus in the trusted class. Most others are

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 15:48, David Talkington wrote: Cameron Simpson wrote: Personally I would opt for the allow outbound ssh to a set of trusted users approach if possible. At my workplace we're fairly fortunate; most of our users are either category 1, and thus in the trusted class.

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Messmer wrote: Right. That's why I suggested allowing outbound SSH only from a few trusted hosts. 'Trusted' in this case means that they are controlled by the network admins, and not their users. Anyone who needs to ssh out gets an account

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 16:18, David Talkington wrote: That's a help, but are you similarly able (administratively speaking) to restrict destination IPs on all other ports? Otherwise, any workstation could do the same thing on a different port, of course. Restricting 80 in this way would

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-16 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Messmer wrote: Well, if the contents of your network are terribly secret (say... propietary source code), then you can get draconian: Internet --- Firewall -- Proxies -- Firewall -- private net The external firewall passes packets on

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread Bill Crawford
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Rick Warner wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: Leaving aside for a moment the fact that the Sun admin needs his/her head checked for having telnet open in the first place (it appears that the telnet buffer overflow from last summer was patched

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread Rick Warner
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: Leaving aside for a moment the fact that the Sun admin needs his/her head checked for having telnet open in the first place (it appears that the telnet buffer overflow

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread Rick Warner
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Bill Crawford wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Rick Warner wrote: The openssh issue was fixed by a one line patch, indeed a single character change, which because of the open nature of the source could be applied by anyone with a text editor and the ability to type. The

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: I'm not sure I'd equate a 4-month-old remotely exploitable buffer overflow with a locally-exploitable vulnerability (*) that was patched in hours. But that's just my opinion. Go back and read the reports. The report to

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: There is one other major security issue with SSH - it allows users the ability to circumvent other security. The fact that if you open up SSH into your network then any user can tunnel any traffic he wants into your network is a

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread Rick Warner
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: There is one other major security issue with SSH - it allows users the ability to circumvent other security. The fact that if you open up SSH into your network then any user

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: Scenario: dangerous user A, who knows enough to do harm but not enough to know he is dangerous, decides that Company Z does not allow all the protocols he wants to/from his home network. Company Z policy is that NO in-bound

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread Rick Warner
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: The report to which I referred was from Marcus Friedl, and I have attached it below. Read all the reports, not just those from the fox in the hen house. More objective reports are available. Nobody's arguing that one should not assume the

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-15 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: telnetd is not owned or controlled by Sun. True, but only Sun can patch the Solaris implementation. That's the problem, and is why Sun admins are helpless in those situations. In fact, telnetd was not the problem, login was

Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-14 Thread Kevin Old
Hello all, I have RH 7.2on my laptop and am trying to telnet to a SunOS box. I have tried all the terminals and am having the following problem: I type: telnet IP of server here and press Enter I get: SunOS 5.6 login: After the login I type my username and press Enter, but the cursor just

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-14 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Old wrote: I have RH 7.2on my laptop and am trying to telnet to a SunOS box. I have tried all the terminals and am having the following problem: After the login I type my username and press Enter, but the cursor just moves to the l of login

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-14 Thread Rick Warner
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, David Talkington wrote: Leaving aside for a moment the fact that the Sun admin needs his/her head checked for having telnet open in the first place (it appears that the telnet buffer overflow from last summer was patched ... in _January_), you should probably try

Re: Can't login to SunOS from RH 7.2 via telnet

2002-03-14 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Warner wrote: Leaving aside for a moment the fact that the Sun admin needs his/her head checked for having telnet open in the first place (it appears that the telnet buffer overflow from last summer was patched ... in _January_), you should