11:35:24 horton pppd[9530]: Using interface ppp0 11:35:24 horton pppd[9530]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 11:35:24 horton pppd[9530]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access The last line above is because the pap-secrets file has group daemon, with read access for group. Does RH6.2 need read access for group daemon, or can I make the group root with no read access? Also, does anybody know why it wouldn't connect some of the time? My new ISP is Sprint/Earthlink; this is the first time I've ever used PAP, and it usually works okay but sometimes fails like this: 11:33:12 horton chat[9525]: send (ATDT555-5555^M) 11:33:13 horton chat[9525]: expect (CONNECT) 11:33:13 horton chat[9525]: ^M 11:33:43 horton chat[9525]: alarm 11:33:43 horton chat[9525]: Failed 11:33:43 horton pppd[9522]: Connect script failed 11:33:44 horton pppd[9522]: Exit. Thanks in advance, Steve Arnold ************************************************ Steve Arnold CLE (Certifiable Linux Evangelist) http://home.earthlink.net/~sarnold418 -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.