RE: Router question (was Re: postfix problems)

2003-09-05 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
> > One question I have that came out of this discussion is > why are systems > > behind routers safer? What kind of security does a router provide? > > A router by itself does not provide any inherent security. However: > > A standard router, such as a cisco 2501, can do port > blocking, wh

Re: Router question (was Re: postfix problems)

2003-09-04 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:05:52AM -1000, Marc Adler wrote: > One question I have that came out of this discussion is why are systems > behind routers safer? They aren't. They are just simpler to admin. So if you don't know what you are doing, or don't have the time to tend to business, they can

Re: Router question (was Re: postfix problems)

2003-09-04 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
> One question I have that came out of this discussion is why are systems > behind routers safer? What kind of security does a router provide? A router by itself does not provide any inherent security. However: A standard router, such as a cisco 2501, can do port blocking, which can add some sec

Router question (was Re: postfix problems)

2003-09-04 Thread Marc Adler
One question I have that came out of this discussion is why are systems behind routers safer? What kind of security does a router provide? By the way, the first line in /etc/resolv.conf has not been added back in, and my system is back to normal. Thanks! -- Marc Adler -- redhat-list mailing l

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-03 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
> On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:26, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > > However, the local caching nameserver could be an appropriate solution > > > iff the ISP is continuously negligent of DNS service problems and Marc > > > invests the time to learn how to properly secure such a service. > > > > As a perso

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:26, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: > > However, the local caching nameserver could be an appropriate solution > > iff the ISP is continuously negligent of DNS service problems and Marc > > invests the time to learn how to properly secure such a service. > > As a person who is st

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-03 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
> However, the local caching nameserver could be an appropriate solution > iff the ISP is continuously negligent of DNS service problems and Marc > invests the time to learn how to properly secure such a service. As a person who is standing up a linux DNS (yes, it's necessary), I just want to doub

problems resolving (was: postfix problems)

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Marques
Check /etc/resolv.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf Check out that you are not doning nis lookups or something like that. The problem is related with name resolution. On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Marc Adler wrote: > I switched my mail transfer agent to postfix from sendmail about a month > ago and it worked just f

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 00:26, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:11, Jason Dixon wrote: > > > > > Your response speaks for itself. In this age of worms and script > > kiddies, we can't afford to propogate the notion that the Internet is > > some big sandbox for everyone to play in. If y

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:11, Jason Dixon wrote: > > Your response speaks for itself. In this age of worms and script > kiddies, we can't afford to propogate the notion that the Internet is > some big sandbox for everyone to play in. If you're going to provide a > public service, you need to be

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread John Rehmert
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 00:03, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 22:51, Jason Dixon wrote: > > No, really, it _was_ crappy advice. Do you also instruct others to > > install their own POP/SMTP/IMAP server when Hotmail goes down? > > > Depends on the person, but sure I would. People like to m

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 00:03, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 22:51, Jason Dixon wrote: > > No, really, it _was_ crappy advice. Do you also instruct others to > > install their own POP/SMTP/IMAP server when Hotmail goes down? > > > Depends on the person, but sure I would. People like to m

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 22:51, Jason Dixon wrote: > No, really, it _was_ crappy advice. Do you also instruct others to > install their own POP/SMTP/IMAP server when Hotmail goes down? > Depends on the person, but sure I would. People like to make things work, learn, etc. Most of the people who take

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:44, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:16, Jason Dixon wrote: > > Ed, you're absolutely right. I apologize for the tone of my previous > > post. I get all worked up when folks give crappy advice. ;-) > > > It wasn't crappy advice, it's just different from your

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:16, Jason Dixon wrote: > if you want, but it's > obvious he doesn't have a clue. Quick to strike aren't ya? > Ed, you're absolutely right. I apologize for the tone of my previous > post. I get all worked up when folks give crappy advice. ;-) > It wasn't crappy advice,

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:00, Marc Adler wrote: > Ok, ok. So what should I do? > > Remove the offending line from /etc/resolves.conf (the first one, if I > remember correctly) and the other local nameservers stuff, then: Yup. Look back to my 2nd reply for further details. I made some comments a

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
* Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 16:18]: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 22:08, Ed Wilts wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:55:41PM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:44, NfoCipher wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:18, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > > > Wrong. DNS us

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 22:08, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:55:41PM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:44, NfoCipher wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:18, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > Wrong. DNS uses 53/tcp for zone transfers, 53/udp for normal queries. > > Just

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:55:41PM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:44, NfoCipher wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:18, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > > I will, but I don't understand why running your own name server is bad. > > It's not bad if you're behind a firewall of some sort

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:44, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:18, Marc Adler wrote: > > > I will, but I don't understand why running your own name server is bad. > > Could you explain that? > > > It's not bad if you're behind a firewall of some sort. Mostly a matter > of opinion. The on

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:44:24PM -0500, NfoCipher wrote: > > > It's not bad if you're behind a firewall of some sort. Mostly a matter Or it is configured for local use only: options { directory "/var/named"; listen-on { 192.168.10.1; }; [...] -- Hal Burgiss -- redhat-list mai

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:18, Marc Adler wrote: > I will, but I don't understand why running your own name server is bad. > Could you explain that? > It's not bad if you're behind a firewall of some sort. Mostly a matter of opinion. The only time you need to secure a dns server is if your port 53

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
* Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 14:40]: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:55, Marc Adler wrote: > > * Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 13:42]: > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:35, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > * NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 12:59]: > > > > > On Tue, 2003-09

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:55, Marc Adler wrote: > * Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 13:42]: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:35, Marc Adler wrote: > > > * NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 12:59]: > > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > > I took a look at /etc/

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
* Jason Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 13:42]: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:35, Marc Adler wrote: > > * NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 12:59]: > > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > > > > I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf and there were a few entries in it, > > > > b

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 19:35, Marc Adler wrote: > * NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 12:59]: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > > > I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf and there were a few entries in it, > > > but how do I know if they are valid? > > > > > Well, your isp is

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 18:59, NfoCipher wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > > I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf and there were a few entries in it, > > but how do I know if they are valid? > > > Well, your isp is sending those to you via dhcp, so you can assume > they're valid

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
* NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 12:59]: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > > I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf and there were a few entries in it, > > but how do I know if they are valid? > > > Well, your isp is sending those to you via dhcp, so you can assume > they're

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 17:42, Marc Adler wrote: > I took a look at /etc/resolv.conf and there were a few entries in it, > but how do I know if they are valid? > Well, your isp is sending those to you via dhcp, so you can assume they're valid but they may not respond very fast - causing a delay. You

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
* NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-02 10:53]: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:35, Marc Adler wrote: > > DNS settings? I'm too newbie to figure it out on my > > own. > Sounds like your problem. Make sure there are valid entries in > /etc/resolv.conf and/or make sure your named is running if you

Re: postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread NfoCipher
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:35, Marc Adler wrote: > DNS settings? I'm too newbie to figure it out on my > own. Sounds like your problem. Make sure there are valid entries in /etc/resolv.conf and/or make sure your named is running if you use that. -- NfoCipher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ChickenWare, LLC

postfix problems

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Adler
I switched my mail transfer agent to postfix from sendmail about a month ago and it worked just fine for a while, until I set up an nfs server and then tried to set up a samba server (that's still underway). Now, when I start the computer, it stops for around 30 seconds when trying to start up post