Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I just modified the Reiser4 license to be the following: The License: The Anti-plagiarism license is the Gnu Public License Version 2 with the following modification: you may not modify, remove, or obscure any credits in the

Re: Debian: reiser4 non-DFSG-free. !?!

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Humberto, I thought about it a bit more, and probably you are right in your analysis of what makes things derived or not derived, and what the legal consequence of that is. Hans

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Chris Dukes
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:34:46PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > Please consider my distinction between a credit (public television in > the USA has them), and an ad (for profit broadcast television has them). Both are ads. One just makes a poor attempt at failing to mention an actual product maki

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Stefan Traby
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 11:41:02AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > I don't think my clarifications of what is a derivative work conflicted > with the GPL, they merely make it less vague as to what is a derivative "clearifications" are modifications to the license and thereof not relevant and incompa

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Jeremy Hankins wrote: A couple comments (that I may not be remembering properly) seemed to imply that these credits are part of a revenue generating model. Folks who wish to require users to see their name in conjunction with ReiserFS may purchase this control over what ReiserFS users see (i.e., t

Re: Debian: reiser4 non-DFSG-free. !?!

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Another example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/reiser4progs-0.5.3> /sbin/mkreiserfs -V mkreiserfs 3.6.9 (2003 www.namesys.com) A pair of credits: Edward Shushkin wrote the encryption and compression file plugins, and the V3 journal relocation code. Vladimir Demidov wrote the parser for sys_reiser4(), the

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Humberto Massa
@ 06/05/2004 15:29 : wrote Hans Reiser : I just modified the Reiser4 license to be the following: The Anti-Plagiarism License etc. Mr. Heiser, I am a software developer, a paralegal, and a Debian user. Recently, I've participated in various technical discussions in debian-devel and in various

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Vitaly, change the paragraph Nikita complained of to: Continuing core development of ReiserFS is mostly paid for by Hans Reiser from money made selling licenses in addition to the GPL to companies who don't want it known that they use ReiserFS as a foundation for their proprietary product. W

Debian: reiser4 non-DFSG-free. !?!

2004-05-06 Thread Humberto Massa
@ 06/05/2004 15:29 : wrote Hans Reiser : I just modified the Reiser4 license to be the following: The Anti-Plagiarism License etc. Mr. Heiser, I am a software developer, a paralegal, and a Debian user. Recently, I've participated in various technical discussions in debian-devel and in various

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
A typical example: /sbin/mkreiserfs -V mkreiserfs 3.6.9 (2003 www.namesys.com) A pair of credits: Alexander Zarochentcev (zam) wrote the high low priority locking code, online resizer for V3 and V4, online repacker for V4, block allocation code, and major parts of the flush code, and maintain

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Nikita Danilov
Hans Reiser writes: > MJ Ray wrote: > > > On 2004-05-04 18:47:02 +0100 Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Our licenses are free and not plagiarizable. GPL V2 is plagiarizable > >> in the view of folks at debian who felt free to remove the credits. > > > > > > Can someone gi

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Matthew Garrett wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: The License: The Anti-plagiarism license is the Gnu Public License Version 2 with the following modification: you may not modify, remove, or obscure any credits in the software unless your modification causes those credits to remain equally prominent an

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 12:54, Hans Reiser wrote: When you go to the opera, they don't come on stage and say buy XYZ, but they do say something prominent on the brochure like "we thank the generous ABC corporation for making this evening happen". Debian should follow that

Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
MJ Ray wrote: On 2004-05-04 18:47:02 +0100 Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Our licenses are free and not plagiarizable. GPL V2 is plagiarizable in the view of folks at debian who felt free to remove the credits. Can someone give a conclusive statement of what actually happened? The bug r

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Matthew Garrett
Hans Reiser wrote: >The License: The Anti-plagiarism license is the Gnu Public License Version 2 >with the following modification: you may not modify, remove, or obscure any >credits in the software unless your modification causes those credits to >remain >equally prominent and to retain their wor

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
I don't think my clarifications of what is a derivative work conflicted with the GPL, they merely make it less vague as to what is a derivative work. The notion that if something is linked determines whether it is derivative has no basis in either copyright law or the GPL. rms, correct me if

Re: reiser4 non-free?

2004-05-06 Thread Hans Reiser
I just modified the Reiser4 license to be the following: The Anti-Plagiarism License Pre-amble: At the time of writing (2004), distros commonly remove, diminish, or obscure the credits of original authors from many programs so as to ensure that the user has brand awareness primarily of the distro.