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Re: [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs

2005-09-01 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Hifumi Hisashi wrote: michael chang wrote: Surely we don't want this. Look at the papers on Namesys's websites, about the atomicaty and the banking example. But that's just my personal opinion. Besides, I believe it's more likely that usually the power gets lost than the SCSI or

Re: WinFS beta out

2005-09-01 Thread LiFe
A souped up version that makes data accessable to all applications designed to take advantage of it. Which, if you think about it, is what MS has been saying they're intending to do for ages. As for space usage, I'm sure it won't use more than Google Desktop Search does, indexing every bit of

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Re: Executability problem

2005-09-01 Thread Nikita
michael chang writes: On 8/30/05, Kris Van Bruwaene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently discovered that scripts have become non-executable on my reiserfs share, even though the -x flags are set: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kris# cat tst #! /usr/bin/perl -w print Hello world\n;

journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
Hello People! Just got a new harddrive and as i'm pretty pleased with reiser4 i thought i'll make it reiser4. But then i realized that it uses almost 1/6 of the hd for nothing mkfs.reiser4 /dev/hde1: /dev/hde1 reiser4222G 7,5M 222G 1% /shared mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hde1 reiserfs233G

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:46:04 +0200 Thomas Kuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello People! Just got a new harddrive and as i'm pretty pleased with reiser4 i thought i'll make it reiser4. But then i realized that it uses almost 1/6 of the hd for nothing mkfs.reiser4 /dev/hde1: /dev/hde1

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Thomas Kuther wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:46:04 +0200 Thomas Kuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello People! Just got a new harddrive and as i'm pretty pleased with reiser4 i thought i'll make it reiser4. But then i realized that it uses almost 1/6 of the hd for nothing mkfs.reiser4

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread PFC
250GB disk Well, 250GB is the marketing capacity, the real formatted capacity is always less (ask fdisk) also of course you have 1024 vs 1000 reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its internal needs. So, do you mean this 5% is for metadata, and thus it would be used anyway on any

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:53:32 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Thomas Kuther wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:46:04 +0200 Thomas Kuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello People! Just got a new harddrive and as i'm pretty pleased with reiser4 i thought i'll make it

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 15:05 schrieb Thomas Kuther: On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:53:32 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [...] reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its internal needs. Ah OK, that computes. So i'll go with reiserfs on that big one (11 GB

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Peter Staubach
reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its internal needs. 5% of today's big disks seems a little excessive. Does reiser4 really need that much space or would less also suffice without compromising performance? Is there research available which makes up the basis for the 5% number?

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:03:43 +0200 PFC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 250GB disk Well, 250GB is the marketing capacity, the real formatted capacity is always less (ask fdisk) also of course you have 1024 vs 1000 yeah see my 2. mail - 233 GB is the true (1024 based) size of the disk reiser4

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:13:36 +0200 Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 15:05 schrieb Thomas Kuther: On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:53:32 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [...] reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Lexington Luthor
Thomas Kuther wrote: Ah OK, that computes. So i'll go with reiserfs on that big one (11 GB for internal stuff is too much i have to admit). Thanks! Tom Other filesystems will also consume space (most of them, more so than reiserfs or reiser4), they will just allocate it incrementally with

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:13:43 +0100 Lexington Luthor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Kuther wrote: Ah OK, that computes. So i'll go with reiserfs on that big one (11 GB for internal stuff is too much i have to admit). Thanks! Tom Other filesystems will also consume space (most of

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello Peter Staubach wrote: reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its internal needs. 5% of today's big disks seems a little excessive. Does reiser4 really need that much space or would less also suffice without compromising performance? No. of course. reiser4 should be more careful

WinFS beta out

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, LiFe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pretty fast. Unfortunately, as indicated before, they seem to have based the bit storage mechanism on NTFS, so slow writes, massive fragmentation, breakable jounaling. Bah, in that case, I'll probably just end up sticking with FAT/reiserfs dual-boots

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, Thomas Kuther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:13:36 +0200 Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 15:05 schrieb Thomas Kuther: On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:53:32 +0400 Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reiser4

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Re: Executability problem

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, Kris Van Bruwaene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: On 9/1/05, Kris Van Bruwaene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like you've hit it. How come it's noexec here and exec/defaults in /etc/fstab ?? How are you mounting the filesystem? E.g. from

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Peter Staubach wrote: reiser4 reserves 5% of disk space for its internal needs. 5% of today's big disks seems a little excessive. Does reiser4 really need that much space or would less also suffice without compromising performance? Is there research available which makes up the basis

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Peter Staubach
Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that space used for? Other journalling file systems that I have

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2005 18:06 schrieb Peter Staubach: Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread David Masover
Peter Staubach wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that space used for? Other journalling file

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: Peter Staubach wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that space used

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Peter Staubach
Hans Reiser wrote: Wow. What is all that space used for? Other journalling file systems that I have seen have limited things like journals to a much smaller space, BSD FFS has a 10% limit unless you are root. They are correct to do so. Yes, they reserve that space so that

Incite into reiser5?

2005-09-01 Thread lares Moreau
Are there any forms of documentation that have to deal with reiser5 yet. It was mentioned on ther reiser4 homepage that reiser5 is projected to be a distributed extention of reiser4. I am intruiged by the plugin structure of reiser4, and am intested in Disributed File Systems. Is Reiser5 on the

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Peter Staubach wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Wow. What is all that space used for? Other journalling file systems that I have seen have limited things like journals to a much smaller space, BSD FFS has a 10% limit unless you are root. They are correct to do so. Yes, they

Some questions about r4

2005-09-01 Thread Pysiak Satriani
Hi, Is there a r4-patch cooking for 2.6.13 ? Is the requirement for not enabling 4k-stacks going away soon? If I patch a vanilla kernel with r4, and sop using r4, would you say that the changes I introduced by patching are rather safe to the rest of the kernel, or would you recomend going

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Peter Staubach
Hans Reiser wrote: Journaling, and reserving space for good allocation, are totally different concerns, I don't understand why you guys are conflating them. Agreed, that journaling and reserving space for good allocation are separate, except that often the space for the journal is

Re: Some questions about r4

2005-09-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 9/1/05, Pysiak Satriani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a r4-patch cooking for 2.6.13 ? Is the requirement for not enabling 4k-stacks going away soon? If I patch a vanilla kernel with r4, and sop using r4, would you say that the changes I introduced by patching are rather safe to

Re: Some questions about r4

2005-09-01 Thread David Masover
Pysiak Satriani wrote: Hi, Is there a r4-patch cooking for 2.6.13 ? Maybe. But the patches from 2.6.13-rc6-mm2 applied and ran without any trouble at all. 2.6.13-mm1 is out, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it. For the record, the script to patch just reiser4 from broken-out

Re[2]: Some questions about r4

2005-09-01 Thread Pysiak Satriani
Hello David, Thursday, September 1, 2005, 8:43:33 PM, you wrote: Maybe. But the patches from 2.6.13-rc6-mm2 applied and ran without any trouble at all. 2.6.13-mm1 is out, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it. Ok, thanks for the script to get it out of broken-out. Is the requirement for

Re: Some questions about r4

2005-09-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 9/1/05, Pysiak Satriani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a r4-patch cooking for 2.6.13 ? Is the requirement for not enabling 4k-stacks going away soon? If I patch a vanilla kernel with r4, and sop using r4, would you say that the changes I introduced by

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Peter Staubach wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that space used for? Emptiness. So that

Re: [PATCH] fix problems related to journaling in Reiserfs

2005-09-01 Thread Chris Mason
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:35:52 -0700 Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks much Hifumi! Chris, please comment on the patch. The problem is that I'm not always making the inode dirty during the reiserfs_file_write. The get_block based write function does an explicit commit during O_SYNC

Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, Peter Staubach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Research for filesystems generally says that as you get more than 85% full the performance goes down, by a lot as you get close to 100%. 5% is probably too little rather than too much. Wow. What is all that space

Re: Incite into reiser5?

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any forms of documentation that have to deal with reiser5 yet. It was mentioned on ther reiser4 homepage that reiser5 is projected to be a distributed extention of reiser4. I am intruiged by the plugin structure of reiser4, and am

Re: Executability problem

2005-09-01 Thread michael chang
On 9/1/05, Kris Van Bruwaene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: mount -o remount,exec /home Bingo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kris# mount -o remount,exec /home [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kris# cat /etc/mtab | grep home /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0

Re: File as a directory - back to predicates

2005-09-01 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:33:37 +0100, Leo Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 8/25/05, Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:51:19 +0100, Leo Comerford [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [... lots of stuff snipped ...] At other levels, of course, the differences assert