Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel

2005-09-20 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 09:41:36AM -0500, David Masover wrote: And personally, if it was my FS, I'd stop working on fsck after it was able to check. That's what it's for. To fix an FS, you wipe it and restore from backups. If that's Reiser4's philosophy, just make sure you tell all of your

Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel

2005-09-20 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:18:46PM -0600, Jonathan Briggs wrote: I use Reiser3 and Reiser4 on all my systems and fsck has always worked even if it has been much slower than I would like. The only problems I've experienced have been on the same level as when an ext2/3 filesystem fsck dumps

Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel

2005-09-20 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 04:15:41PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:28:12 +0400, Roman I Khimov said: --nextPart1692600.LIfSYN1P7A Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but ext2 have failed on second check of first pass with Second check... e2fsck 1.34

Re: I request inclusion of reiser4 in the mainline kernel

2005-09-20 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 09:51:33AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: Do you have working fsck for V4? Until then, you should not claim that users should switch. Journalling does not help you, if you have unexpected kernel problem or hardware trouble, fsck _is_ mandatory. Can V4 survive few hours of

Re: backup (was Re: reiser4 plugins)

2005-07-01 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Rule #3 from http://www.streamload.com/About/Legal_eng.asp?page=id73# is pretty clear about what applies if you have a trial account (which seems to be what you have since you say you'll cancel your account if they charge you anything): 3. Do not circumvent Freeloader download restrictions.

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-30 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:12:38PM -0500, David Masover wrote: Streamload cannot warrant and does not guarantee, and You should not expect, that all of Your private communications and other personal information will never be disclosed in ways not otherwise described in this

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:21:38PM +0300, Markus T?rnqvist wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Hans (or someone) decided that when hardware stops working, it's not the job of the FS to compensate, it's the

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:19:01AM -0500, David Masover wrote: XFS has similar issues where it assumes that hardware has powerfail interrupts, and that the OS can use said powerfail interrupt to stop DMA's in its tracks on an power failure, so that you don't have garbage written to key

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 03:18:30PM -0500, Steve Lord wrote: I presume Ted is referring to problems guaranteeing the integrity of the journal at recovery time. I am coming into this without all the available context, so I may be barking up the wrong tree In particular, I am not sure how

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:46:23PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: A difference between us is that I tell them that with all the major linux filesystems (I include XFS and JFS in this) it is by this time far more likely to be hardware that caused corruption than the filesystem software, whereas I

Re: -mm - 2.6.13 merge status

2005-06-25 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 12:23:41PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: assert(trace_hash-89, is_hashed(foo) != 0); Lots of people like corporate anonymity. Some don't. I don't. I like knowing who wrote what. It helps me know who to pay how much. It helps me know who to forward the bug

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-24 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 12:21:18PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: There is an area where we suffered from writing fsck last. When there are two leaf nodes with the same key range AND the bitmap cannot be trusted to tell us which is the valid one, we don't know which is the most recent, and pick