Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Hans Reiser wrote: I would like to encourage its inclusion as an experimental filesystem BEFORE vendors ship it. I think first putting experimental stuff in the kernels used by hackers makes sense. I think it creates more of a community. I think -mm *is* what is run by hackers. That said, do

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: Some people don't care about speed but need space. I'd leave them in on general principle, even if no one wants them now. Software design is usually improved by identifying features that aren't worth much, and removing them from the interface and burying

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
Hans Reiser wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: - reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled, although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem criterion used to be once lots of people are using it, preferably when vendors are shipping it. That's a

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread Clifford Beshers
Hans Reiser wrote: Lindows is planning on shipping with reiser4 in its next release. I would very much like to see our inclusion before that. Yes, and we would very much like to see it in the mainstream kernel, rather than an mm branch. It is perfectly acceptable to turn off the namespace

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread Con Kolivas
Clifford Beshers wrote: incompatibility or instability. Our goal is to ship it as an advanced but integrated feature, i.e., we do not want to ship two kernels and/or lose other features such as bootsplash, software suspend, etc. ^^ is not in the mainline

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread Clifford Beshers
Con Kolivas wrote: Clifford Beshers wrote: incompatibility or instability. Our goal is to ship it as an advanced but integrated feature, i.e., we do not want to ship two kernels and/or lose other features such as bootsplash, software suspend, etc. ^^ is

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans Reiser wrote: | David Masover wrote: | | | Some people don't care about speed but need space. I'd leave them in on | general principle, even if no one wants them now. | | | Software design is usually improved by identifying features that aren't |

Re:  2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-24 Thread Alex Zarochentsev
Hi, On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:39:57PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: Hilzinger Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SuSE Linux 9.2 will contain reiser4 hm. Nobody ever tells me anything. Does that mean that SuSE are using 8k stacks? We have several reiser4/4KSTACKS successful reports.

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Markus Törnqvist
Hans Reiser wrote: Please make large keys the default, and hide the ability to choose small keys by taking it out of the configuration menu and burying it in a .h file. Stupid question, why have small keys at all? Someone said once that he didn't want to use large keys because they added no

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Hilzinger Marcel
Andrew Morton wrote: - reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled, although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem criterion used to be once lots of people are using it, preferably when vendors are shipping it. That's a bit of a

Re:  2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Andrew Morton
Hilzinger Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SuSE Linux 9.2 will contain reiser4 hm. Nobody ever tells me anything. Does that mean that SuSE are using 8k stacks?

Re:  2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Jan Engelhardt
SuSE Linux 9.2 will contain reiser4 hm. Nobody ever tells me anything. Does that mean that SuSE are using 8k stacks? Yes, the defconfig does not have 4K stacks enabled. (And I stick to that when I use the kernel-source.i586.rpm) Jan Engelhardt -- Gesellschaft für Wissenschaftliche

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Hans Reiser
Hilzinger Marcel wrote: Too late, perhaps... SuSE Linux 9.2 will contain reiser4 (at least the beta testversions did). It cannot be set up via YaST during installation, which makes its user base pretty small. 9.3 is where we will probably get a lot of users. Probably more bugs will get found

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Törnqvist wrote: | Hans Reiser wrote: | | |Please make large keys the default, and hide the ability to |choose small keys by taking it out of the configuration menu and burying |it in a .h file. | | | Stupid question, why have small keys at all?

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Jan Engelhardt
| Stupid question, why have small keys at all? | | Someone said once that he didn't want to use large keys because they added | no value to him and small keys wasted less space. If there are people like | this around, burying it is not cool, but if there aren't, maybe small keys | should be ripped

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-23 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: Some people don't care about speed but need space. I'd leave them in on general principle, even if no one wants them now. Software design is usually improved by identifying features that aren't worth much, and removing them from the interface and burying them where average

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-22 Thread Hans Reiser
Andrew Morton wrote: - reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled, although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem criterion used to be once lots of people are using it, preferably when vendors are shipping it. That's a bit of a chicken and

Re: 2.6.9-mm1

2004-10-22 Thread Hans Reiser
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 03:54:00AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: Your tree also has various rejected core changes for it still. Which were they? reiser4-aliased-dir.patch reiser4-allow-drop_inode-implementation.patch reiser4-export-inode_lock.patch