Hi Tyler,

Do you get the same error when trying the 'oblate' or 'ellipsoid'
diffusion tensors ?


Sébastien


Tyler Reddy wrote:
> I'm having an issue with the full_analysis.py script. It seems to work 
> fine when
> DIFF_MODEL = 'local_tm' or 'sphere' (converges on 4th round) but for 'prolate'
> I get the following output:
>
> Grid search
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Searching the grid.
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408, in <module>
>     Relax()
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125, in __init__
>     self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", 
> line 270, in
> run
>     return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag, 
> show_script=self.__show_script,
> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_er
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", 
> line 531, in
> run_script
>     return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", 
> line 427, in
> interact_script
>     execfile(script_file, local)
>   File "full_analysis.py", line 673, in <module>
>     Main(self.relax)
>   File "full_analysis.py", line 284, in __init__
>     grid_search(inc=inc)
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/minimisation.py", line 152,
> in grid_search
>     minimise.grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
> constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity)
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/generic_fns/minimise.py", line 
> 185,
> in grid_search
>     grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc, constraints=constraints,
> verbosity=verbosity)
>   File
> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py",
> line 479, in grid_search
>     self.minimise(min_algor='grid', lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
> constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity, sim_index=sim_index)
>   File
> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py",
> line 987, in minimise
>     results = generic_minimise(func=self.mf.func, dfunc=self.mf.dfunc,
> d2func=self.mf.d2func, args=(), x0=param_vector, min_algor=min_algor,
> min_options=min_options, func_tol=func_tol, g
> l, maxiter=max_iterations, A=A, b=b, full_output=1, print_flag=verbosity)
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/generic.py",
> line 319, in generic_minimise
>     xk, fk, k = grid(func=func, args=args, grid_ops=min_options, A=A, b=b, 
> l=l,
> u=u, c=c, print_flag=print_flag)
>   File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/grid.py",
> line 129, in grid
>     f = func(*(params,)+args)
>   File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/maths_fns/mf.py", line 506, in
> func_diff
>     self.diff_data.calc_di(data, self.diff_data)
>   File 
> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/maths_fns/direction_cosine.py", 
> line
> 64, in calc_spheroid_di
>     data.dz = dot(data.xh_unit_vector, diff_data.dpar)
> TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'NoneType' and 'float'
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> For the bug you mention, I've fixed this and the changes are in the
>> repository.  There were a few other issues to do with subsequent LaTeX
>> compilation and these have been fixed too.  You can see the new sample
>> script at:  http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/relax/1.3/sample_scripts/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> 1) I changed that line and I'm still having a bit of trouble (see output
>>> below).
>>>
>>> 2) The errors that I'm using are described as 'the standard error for each
>>> parameter... [which] is an easy calculation from the covariance matrix.'
>>> Paraphrasing from the author there--I'm guessing this isn't the optimal
>>> input?
>>>
>>> 3) I'm not sure it's explicitly stated in the manual, but I'm proceeding on
>>> the
>>> assumption that you run the multi-model script first and then modsel to
>>> decide
>>> on the right model for each given residue. A few weeks ago I was
>>> experimenting
>>> with this and if I didn't leave the global correlation time as fixed the
>>> computation seemed to take a VERY long time (unclear if it was ever going to
>>> finish).
>>>
>>> Also, as a side note, since my peptide is actually in a micelle, I'm not
>>> sure if
>>> there's anything extra I can do for diffusion tensor and correlation time
>>> type
>>> stuff. I know some programs (i.e. the Mathematica notebooks by Dr.
>>> Spyracopoulos) read in PDB files for diffusion tensor calculations, but I
>>> suspect it's a bit of a mess when the system is more complicated than the
>>> structure in the PDB file would suggest.
>>>
>>> Output:
>>>
>>> Latex()
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> relax> pipe.create(pipe_name='results', pipe_type='mf')
>>>
>>> relax> results.read(file='results', dir=None)
>>> Opening the file 'results' for reading.
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408, in <module>
>>>   Relax()
>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125, in __init__
>>>   self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", line 270,
>>> in
>>> run
>>>   return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
>>> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
>>> show_script=self.__show_script,
>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", line 531,
>>> in
>>> run_script
>>>   return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
>>> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py", line 427,
>>> in
>>> interact_script
>>>   execfile(script_file, local)
>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 220, in <module>
>>>   Latex()
>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 68, in __init__
>>>   self.table_body()
>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 186, in table_body
>>>   self.file.write("%9.3f & %9.3f & " % (spin.s2, spin.s2_err))
>>> AttributeError: 'SpinContainer' object has no attribute 's2_err'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Using a new system test, I found one more bug in the script.  This has
>>>> been fixed in the 1.3 repository line.  If you haven't used subversion
>>>> to check out (and update) the 1.3 line, then you can see the changes
>>>> required in my commit at:
>>>>
>>>> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-commits/2008-10/msg00402.html
>>>>
>>>> Just change the line starting with '-' to the line starting with '+'.
>>>> Oh, it may take a few minutes for the link to be generated.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a bug in the sample script.  Try adding a ':' character to the
>>>>> end of line 171 in your script.  I've fixed this in the 1.3 repository
>>>>> line and will try to add a system test to the program to try to catch
>>>>> any bugs before you do ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I've been trying to use the latex python script on the aic results file.
>>>>>> I get
>>>>>> the syntax error below. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or if
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> just a small problem with that line of code:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Latex()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408, in <module>
>>>>>>   Relax()
>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125, in __init__
>>>>>>   self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>> line 270, in
>>>>>> run
>>>>>>   return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
>>>>>> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
>>>>>> show_script=self.__show_script,
>>>>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>> line 531, in
>>>>>> run_script
>>>>>>   return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
>>>>>> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>> line 427, in
>>>>>> interact_script
>>>>>>   execfile(script_file, local)
>>>>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 171
>>>>>>   for spin, spin_id in spin_loop(return_id=True)
>>>>>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been using the multi model and model selection scripts in
>>>>>>>> relax 1.3.2 but
>>>>>>>> I have trouble displaying the output in a tabulated format. Both
>>>>>>>> scripts seem
>>>>>>>> to produce an xml document with various headers that isn't easy to
>>>>>>>> read. It
>>>>>>>> looks like format='columnar' isn't supported. I wonder what other
>>>>>>>> options I
>>>>>>>> have to look at this data? For some reason, I don't recall having
>>>>>>>> this problem
>>>>>>>> on a Linux machine a few weeks ago (using a Mac OS 10.4 at the
>>>>>>>> moment), but
>>>>>>>> anyways it would be nice to get readable model-free output.
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> The results file is now in XML format and the more readable 'columnar'
>>>>>>> format has been removed from the 1.3 line.  With the change to the new
>>>>>>> XML results file all the contents of a data pipe, irrespective of what
>>>>>>> that data is, is packaged.  So you can put data into this pipe
>>>>>>> yourself and it will save that information (for advanced users,
>>>>>>> complex python objects will need the to_xml() and from_xml() methods
>>>>>>> to package and unpackage the data).  The reason for removing the
>>>>>>> 'columnar' format was that it was considered too inflexible for the
>>>>>>> changes occuring in the 1.3 line, it contained duplicate information,
>>>>>>> had numerical precision issues, and there were alternatives to easily
>>>>>>> view this data.  You can use the value.display() and value.write()
>>>>>>> user functions to display and save the results for a single parameter.
>>>>>>> If needed, these user functions could be extended to accept a list of
>>>>>>> parameters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there is the sample_scripts/latex_mf_table.py sample script which
>>>>>>> will generate a LaTeX table of the model-free results.  This file can
>>>>>>> be copied and modified - this requires learning a bit of python - to
>>>>>>> format and display the results any way you wish.  And finally if
>>>>>>> anyone really wants to, and has the skills to, they can modify this
>>>>>>> sample script to recreate a version of the 'columnar' format.  This
>>>>>>> could be added to the relax sample scripts, and if their skills are
>>>>>>> very advanced, then much code from the 1.2 relax versions can be
>>>>>>> recycled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> 2)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The error input for the relaxation rate parameters is currently my
>>>>>>>> non-linear
>>>>>>>> curve fitting standard deviation. I'm not sure if that means
>>>>>>>> subsequent
>>>>>>>> analysis will be completely incorrect? I guess it depends on the
>>>>>>>> comparison of
>>>>>>>> magnitude between these errors and the type of error that is
>>>>>>>> propagated by
>>>>>>>> relax during its own curve-fitting (which I am unable to do at the
>>>>>>>> moment).
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> I'm guessing this is the sum of squared error value (SSE) from the
>>>>>>> fit.  Or is it a regression coefficient or a chi-squared value?  Did
>>>>>>> the fitting use a technique such as bootstrapping or jackknife
>>>>>>> simulations to estimate the parameter errors via propagation?  Or did
>>>>>>> it use the covariance matrix?  If it is the SSE, chi-squared, or
>>>>>>> regression coefficient then that value cannot be used.  This will be
>>>>>>> wildly wrong and cause massive failure in model selection.  It will
>>>>>>> cause big problems in optimisation, and if you are unlucky and have
>>>>>>> spaces with long, curved valleys or flat curved spaces leading to the
>>>>>>> minimum (that's model-free models m5 to m8 in most cases and not so
>>>>>>> uncommon in model m4) then the minimum can be squeezed and appear in
>>>>>>> another completely different region in the space.  It will likely also
>>>>>>> cause model failure issues, which although removed by the eliminate()
>>>>>>> user function, might discount the best solution.  I would guess that
>>>>>>> all of this will have a measurable affect on the final diffusion
>>>>>>> tensor as well and, if so, this will cause the appearance of
>>>>>>> artificial motions (my 2007 JBNMR paper at
>>>>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/b702202f explains these problems in detail).
>>>>>>> If one is not careful with the errors and they are significantly off,
>>>>>>> then the result is that the results may not be real.  So I would only
>>>>>>> use the error if it comes from an established error propagation
>>>>>>> technique (i.e. from data to parameter error propagation).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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