Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Sunday 10 June 2012, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > Why not start now and make the next kdelibs 4.8.5? Releasing a kdelibs > 4.9 will just add to the confusion of how kdelibs development is > working. Because having a kdelibs version different from (and especially lower than) the KDE SC version mess

Re: kde-runtime does not finds kactivites

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
El Diumenge, 10 de juny de 2012, a les 00:52:28, Andreas Pakulat va escriure: Ok, great, then please let the kactivities team know about this. The release- team cannot really do anything about it (other than trying to reach the kactivities team). Basically the same goes to all the rest of your ma

Re: kde-runtime does not finds kactivites

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi, On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Manuel Tortosa wrote: > ** > > El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 19:31:51, Andreas Pakulat va > escriure: > > Martin Graesslin recently had a nice blog post about some basic > information that needs to be provided when reporting any kind of problem. > Your

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
El 09/06/2012, a las 10:30, "Aaron J. Seigo" escribió: On Saturday, June 9, 2012 13:40:29 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:57:16 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: now, i really don't understand the use of words like stupid and dumb. I'll leave the fist fighting to others, and wou

smokekde build failures in beta2 tarballs:

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
Compiled with Soprano support, using the soprano needed for nepomuk core, so 2.7.56: Scanning dependencies of target smokesoprano [ 5%] Building CXX object soprano/CMakeFiles/smokesoprano.dir/smokedata.o In file included from /chakra/desktop-unstable/kdebindings- smokekde/src/smokekde-4.8.90/so

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > things that change APIs, that do not leave kdelibs non-useful on large %s > of user systems, etc. would therefore not meet the likely requirements. > and i say that as someone who is sitting on patches to kparts (written by > Ivan, not me :) that i

Re: kde-runtime issue

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 17:58:00, vau escriure: > I've tested the kde-runtime tarball from 4.8.80 against kdelibs, > nepomuk-core kdepimlibs and kactivities from 4.8.90 and it finds > Kactivities but does not compiles either. Will test different setups to see > if i can find where it

Re: kde-runtime does not finds kactivites

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 19:31:51, Andreas Pakulat va escriure: Martin Graesslin recently had a nice blog post about some basic information that needs to be provided when reporting any kind of problem. Your post lacks all information, with this not even an educated guess is possible

Re: Shared Desktop Ontologies

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi, On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Manuel Tortosa wrote: > Again about SDO > > The akonadi-nepomuk feeder needs some commits from a SDO not yet released, > there is a 0.9.5 tagged and also a 0.9.51 but nothing packaged and even > more > the needed commits are after the 0.9.51 tagging > > So, the

Re: kde-runtime does not finds kactivites

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas Pakulat
Hi, On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Tortosa wrote: > Another issue in the beta2 tarballs, after compiling and installing > kactivities, kde-runtime does not finds it: > Martin Graesslin recently had a nice blog post about some basic information that needs to be provided when reporting any

kde-runtime issue

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
I've tested the kde-runtime tarball from 4.8.80 against kdelibs, nepomuk-core kdepimlibs and kactivities from 4.8.90 and it finds Kactivities but does not compiles either. Will test different setups to see if i can find where it is broken Greez Manuel __

kde-runtime issue

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
kde-runtime does not seems to compile: Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/kio_nepomuk.so In file included from /chakra/desktop-unstable/kde-runtime/src/kde- runtime-4.8.90/nepomuk/controller/../kcm/statuswidget.h:24:0, from /chakra/desktop-unstable/kde-runtime/src/kde- runtime

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Michael Jansen
On Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:32:03 AM Allen Winter wrote: > > On Saturday 09 June 2012 7:53:06 AM Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > > > > > > > > - Before announcing the tarballs, build the whole thing at least once. > > Absolutely. > We are working on this. We have a CI system in place (build.kde.org

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Allen Winter
> On Saturday 09 June 2012 7:53:06 AM Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > > > - Before announcing the tarballs, build the whole thing at least once. Absolutely. We are working on this. We have a CI system in place (build.kde.org) and are just lacking the time and manpower to make it fully functional. > -

kde-runtime does not finds kactivites

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
Another issue in the beta2 tarballs, after compiling and installing kactivities, kde-runtime does not finds it: ==> starting build ... -- The C compiler identification is GNU -- The CXX compiler identification is GNU -- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- Check for working C compiler:

Shared Desktop Ontologies

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
Again about SDO The akonadi-nepomuk feeder needs some commits from a SDO not yet released, there is a 0.9.5 tagged and also a 0.9.51 but nothing packaged and even more the needed commits are after the 0.9.51 tagging So, theorically somebody should tag a newer version and release the package fo

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 13:40:29 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:57:16 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > > now, i really don't understand the use of words like stupid and dumb. > > I'll leave the fist fighting to others, and would like to apologize for my > choice of words. cool

Kdepimlibs beta2

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
sorry my previous mail was out by error I have found this compiling kdelibs 4.8.90: -- Found SharedDesktopOntologies: /usr/share/ontology (found version "0.9.0", required is "0.2") is this correct? i thought 4.9 needs at least 0.9.0 Greez Manuel __

Kdepimlibs beta2

2012-06-09 Thread Manuel Tortosa
Kdepimlibs clains ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry if the quoting goes amiss somewhere - ironically, my Thunderbird is somehow acting up. I'm trying to fix that manually but I might miss a piece or two. (Everything I write is, of course, my opinion and, thus, I leave out the "IMO"s and all that

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:57:16 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > > now, i really don't understand the use of words like stupid and dumb. I'll leave the fist fighting to others, and would like to apologize for my choice of words. I still dont think the decision to freeze master was a good or necessar

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 13:10:40 Modestas Vainius wrote: > > There's no mispackaging. If you followed the list or read the archives > > before blaming people of wrong doing you'd know that kdelibs for 4.8.4 and > > 4.8.80 actually come from the same branch. > > Thank you for pushing a bunch of u

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 12:44:59, Wulf C. Krueger va escriure: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09.06.2012 12:30, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > >> As an outsider who does not really (have to) know how much he > >> puts his foot in his mouth with that, let me conf

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:20:23 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > rewritten or broken. However, imposing this branch weirdness on everyone > else for pure political reasons is just wrong. it isn't for political reasons. kdelibs development is focusing on 5.0. there are no further feature releases

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:37:28 schrieb Albert Astals Cid: > > You are all making noise out of nothing, the amount of changes is in the > same order of magnitude of other releases. > > Please stop let's stop throwing shit to the other side of the fence and > start being constructive Actually y

Re: Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:58:44 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Yes, it's stupid, but it's how the kdelibs maintainers want things to be. > :-( There's a difference between "I don't follow the reasoning" or "I don't think the maintainer's reasons are valid" and "stupid". Please be more respectful, or

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > There is not stupid not weird thing in kdelibs. We simply declared kdelibs > to be feature perfect and only bugfixes should be happening there. > > What's the problem with that? That no software is ever perfect. For example, we will NEED the S

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09.06.2012 12:30, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> As an outsider who does not really (have to) know how much he >> puts his foot in his mouth with that, let me confirm that it's >> really an extremely dumb idea. The regular mess at release time >> speak

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 12:28:11, Andreas K. Huettel va escriure: > Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:10:40 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > > Hello, > > > > On šeštadienis 09 Birželis 2012 13:01:20 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. Whil

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 12:20:23, Andreas K. Huettel va escriure: > Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 11:58:44 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > On Saturday 09 June 2012, Modestas Vainius wrote: > > > I don't know yet if any other modules from 4.8.4 has been > > > mis-packaged in the same way > > >

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 13:10:40, Modestas Vainius va escriure: > Hello, > > On šeštadienis 09 Birželis 2012 13:01:20 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 > > > was > > > pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwa

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 12:10:40 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > On šeštadienis 09 Birželis 2012 13:01:20 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 > > > was pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwards in terms of > > > st

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag 09 Juni 2012, 11:58:44 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > On Saturday 09 June 2012, Modestas Vainius wrote: > > I don't know yet if any other modules from 4.8.4 has been > > mis-packaged in the same way > > Due to the permanent feature freeze of kdelibs 4, there is actually no > difference between

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On šeštadienis 09 Birželis 2012 13:01:20 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 was > > pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwards in terms of > > stability (random crashes there and there). After quick investigation of >

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 10:35:15, Modestas Vainius va escriure: > Hello, Hi > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 was > pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwards in terms of stability > (random crashes there and there). After quick invest

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 9 de juny de 2012, a les 10:35:15, Modestas Vainius va escriure: > Hello, Hi > here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 was > pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwards in terms of stability > (random crashes there and there). After quick invest

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Modestas Vainius wrote: > I don't know yet if any other modules from 4.8.4 has been > mis-packaged in the same way Due to the permanent feature freeze of kdelibs 4, there is actually no difference between kdelibs 4.8.4 and 4.8.80/4.8.90 other than the version number, th

Re: playground folder in the kate repo

2012-06-09 Thread Dominik Haumann
Hi Albert, On Saturday, 9. June 2012 00:17:55 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > Hi guys, having the playground folder inside the kate repo is kind of > confusing since for example the plugin that was added yesterday just showed > up in scripty in kde-baseapps in the master branch. > > Thing is the maste

ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, here at Debian we had a really bad experience with 4.8.4. While 4.8.3 was pretty good, 4.8.4 seemed like a huge step backwards in terms of stability (random crashes there and there). After quick investigation of kdelibs 4.8.4 I found the following: $ diff -uNr kdelibs-4.8.3 kdelibs-4.8.4 |