Re: KDE 4.1 beta2 tarballs (4.0.83) try #1 uploaded

2008-06-20 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Friday 20 June 2008 21:41:07 Helio Chissini de Castro wrote: kdeplasmoids/dict requires Plasma/Icon header, which is not installed from current kdebase-workspace That would be r821246, I think. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 signature.asc

Re: KDE 4.0.6 schedule

2008-06-04 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 12:04:41 Dirk Mueller wrote: contrary to our previous schedule of one month per patch release, I'd like to delay 4.0.6 to the undefined future to not drag away ressources from KDE 4.1 schedule, which is way more important. any objections to that plan None from my

Re: Default win deco change problem

2008-05-28 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 28 May 2008 10:45:54 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote: Yesterday a style change in default window decoration Ozone (addition of blue stripes in the titlebar) makes all screenshots for doc obsolete. That might sounds as a small thing but for people who care about doc it looks bad. And we

Re: 4.1 Bindings Milestone

2008-05-22 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 22 May 2008 06:03:15 Matt Rogers wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2008 09:16:01 am Allen Winter wrote: Howdy, To avoid future confusion, rdale and I have added a new milestone to the 4.1 Release Plan [1] specifying a milestone for a bindings freeze: 8 July: No new additions to

Re: 4.0.5

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 13:50:22 Dirk Mueller wrote: so I would propose to move it 2 days earlier (May 28th). is that a problem anywhere? I'll be at Linuxtag as well and would prefer the release to be the week after (the Wednesday then is 4 June). I don't care a lot when it's being tagged

Re: 4.0.5

2008-05-12 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 12 May 2008 14:54:05 Allen Winter wrote: I added the following milestones to the 4.0 Release Schedule [1] 30 May 2008 (Friday): Tagging 4.0.5  6 June 2008 (Friday): Releasing 4.0.5 Please advise if these aren't good dates. Should work from my POV. Thanks Allen! -- sebas

Re: Artwork freeze

2008-05-09 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Friday 09 May 2008 20:58:48 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: I'd like a clarification on the artwork freeze. What is it and what is it for? http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule#July_8th.2C_2008:_Artwork_Freeze This looks rather reasonable to me. Artwork is things like

Re: the future of kdetoys

2008-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 23:08:32 Dirk Mueller wrote: On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Stefan Böhmann wrote: In short: I think the kdetoys module is dead. even in KDE 3.x times it was used as a testing module for build system changes (because it is small and compiles quickly) :) I think I'm fine

Re: [Kde-pim] KDEPIM 4.1?

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 30 April 2008 09:32:53 Jonathan Marten wrote: (KMail+kmailcvt, Kontact, Korganiser) are big and extensive enough to Please mind my ignorance, but what is kmailcvt? -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [Kde-pim] KDEPIM 4.1?

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 05 May 2008 13:54:56 Thomas McGuire wrote: On Monday 05 May 2008, Sebastian Kuegler wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2008 09:32:53 Jonathan Marten wrote: (KMail+kmailcvt, Kontact, Korganiser) are big and extensive enough to Please mind my ignorance, but what is kmailcvt? A tool

Re: 4.2 Feature Plan

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 05 May 2008 17:23:43 Matt Williams wrote: As for a list which we would show to the public, I guess all the features should be added to trunk/www/sites/www/announcements/changelogs/ in whatever way makes then show up for a 4.1 release. Won't work, too little people actually care about

Phonon backends, was Re: Goals? How are we doing?

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 05 May 2008 16:46:48 Allen Winter wrote: Here's a list of our goals for 4.1. Please provide a status update, if you can: - GStreamer, Quicktime, DirectShow9 Phonon backends This is something seems not solved yet. From re-reading related discussions, I gather that the release

Re: kdereview closed?

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 05 May 2008 21:47:27 Tom Albers wrote: Op maandag 05 mei 2008 21:26 schreef u: On Monday 05 May 2008 14:52:59 Tom Albers wrote: Op maandag 05 mei 2008 20:29 schreef u: So even though Decibel is already in kdereview, we're not going to let it in to kdenetwork if somebody

Re: kdereview closed?

2008-05-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 00:28:04 Kevin Ottens wrote: Le mardi 6 mai 2008, Sebastian Kuegler a écrit : A couple of problems:  1) last I knew, the decibel buildsystem was messy  2) we never actually announced it.  so maybe nobody looked      at it in kdereview. Announce it now

Re: release-team session at akademy?

2008-05-02 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 29 April 2008 20:47:06 Dirk Mueller wrote: I think it is a good idea to do a release-team session at akademy'08, to gather input about the release process and collect post mortem information about the KDE 4.1 release process, and perhaps attract new people who want to help with

Re: Delaying KDE 4.1 Alpha 1 ?

2008-04-21 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 21 April 2008 11:18:04 Andras Mantia wrote: On Sunday 20 April 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: but a contingency for a plasma (or even workspace as a whole if that's easier? crappy for the kwin guys though =/ ) from the 10th is probably smart. That's not that easy. I tried to

Re: Delaying KDE 4.1 Alpha 1 ?

2008-04-21 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 21 April 2008 16:12:08 Dirk Mueller wrote: On Monday 21 April 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: * if we want WoC and other necessary steps forward in plasma in a rational time frame (e.g. not next year), occassional blips like this will happen and be necessary. bitching about how it

Re: Extragear tarball 4.0.3

2008-04-09 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 14:31:04 Tom Albers wrote: At Tuesday 08 April 2008 19:24, you wrote: On Tuesday, 08. April 2008 16:19:55 Tom Albers wrote: The version number needs to change, that's a basic part of release management.  If it's not done by the app author it should be done by

Re: KDE 4.0.4 release date

2008-04-07 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Monday 07 April 2008 13:38:47 Dirk Mueller wrote: I'd like to schedule 4.0.4 tagging to April 30th. Any problems with that? No problems with that here. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: KDE 4.0.3

2008-03-06 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 06 March 2008 13:18:03 Dirk Mueller wrote: I'd like to schedule 4.0.3 tagging on March 26th. Any comments? (After the flamewars on the 4.0.2 release I currently don't see the point, though I'd like to stick with a time based release). Which flamewars exactly? (open question ...)

Re: [kde-promo] KDE 4.0.2 annoucement

2008-03-02 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
Hi Albert, On Friday 29 February 2008 20:05:55 Albert Astals Cid wrote: 4.0.2 is scheduled for 5 March, if we want to give translators 1 day it should be a good idea to start working on it. The announcement is now in SVN, usual location. I've put tags for Boilerplate in there. The first

Re: KDE 3.5.9

2008-02-01 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Friday 01 February 2008 21:30:19 Andras Mantia wrote: On Friday 01 February 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi Allen, just discussed it with Albert - to avoid FOSDEM weekend, I would tag on 13th to release on 19th. Fine with everyone? I think this is a good plan. +1 -- sebas

Release Schedule post-4.0

2008-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
Good morning, The release-team has worked out a -- very rough -- schedule for the upcoming releases. This means that we will be releasing KDE 4.1 in July later this year, and do time-based releases every six months. The reasoning behind this is easier planning for us and our partners. With

Re: [24h] 6 months release schedule, 4.1 in July

2008-01-17 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 17 January 2008 05:38:29 Matt Rogers wrote: I'm in the process of coming up with a schedule with a release in late August, which should give us enough wiggle room to push it into September if needed. It should be done in enough time so that it can be somewhat discussed before

Re: [24h] 6 months release schedule, 4.1 in July

2008-01-17 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 17 January 2008 05:38:29 Matt Rogers wrote: I object, actually. Considering the current release schedules of the various distros, I actually think a release in August or September would be better for KDE 4.1. Given that the replies should be addressing the point you raised, are you

Re: [24h] 6 months release schedule, 4.1 in July

2008-01-17 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 17 January 2008 13:22:45 Cornelius Schumacher wrote: On Thursday 17 January 2008 01:14, Sebastian Kuegler wrote: I therefore propose to adopt a 6 months release schedule, starting to release in July with 4.1, then in January 2009 4.2, and so on. Given the fuzz which was made

Re: [24h] 6 months release schedule, 4.1 in July

2008-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 17 January 2008 01:27:48 Richard Moore wrote: On 1/17/08, Sebastian Kuegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it'd be time for people with *strong* objections to give them, otherwise, we should start communicating the new schedule. Not an objection, but we need to consider

Re: KDE release event

2008-01-07 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
[forwarded to release-*event*] On Saturday 05 January 2008 10:15:17 C Lee wrote: Hello release team: My name is C Lee and I want to participate to this event. I am most likely will come on Fridat, 1/18/2008. My organization is NTea I (C Lee) will be attending Most likely I will be there

Re: You've made a BIG MISTAKE with cheap black plastic Vista look.

2008-01-05 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
Hi rbarryd, On Wednesday 02 January 2008 20:15:34 you wrote: A good way to increase the popularity of linux is to make linux look good and unique, KDE 3.3 looked great, looking good and unique worked for Apple big time. A good way to decrease the popularity of linux is to make it look like

Re: Shipping a cursor theme with KDE

2007-12-28 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 27 December 2007 17:29:50 Cyrille Berger wrote: On Thursday 27 December 2007, Tom Albers wrote: Thanks, and I completely agree, it is simply too late. I completely agree too. It's too late for 4.0. The work won't be lost and will be included in 4.1, among a lot of great many

Re: Modules and Maintainers

2007-12-18 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 22:04:20 Allen Winter wrote: For 4.x, where x =1, I think we need to require maintainers for all our modules. While having a maintainer for a module or an application, I don't think it's realistic to *require* modules that have no maintainer. What would we do with

Re: GStreamer backend on kdebase

2007-12-18 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 15:49:35 Allen Winter wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007 14:48:04 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Vir says it does not work and it's not expected to work. So i ask myself why is it sitting in the place of the code we are going to release in less than one month. Can

Re: What to do about the newssl branch?

2007-12-16 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Sunday 16 December 2007 20:34:08 Allen Winter wrote: On Wednesday 12 December 2007 12:47:15 Allen Winter wrote: Howdy, Please see Andreas Hartmetz's message in kde-core-devel entitled Request to merge the newssl branch. Did we come to closure on this? We really need an answer for

Re: GStreamer backend on kdebase

2007-12-15 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Saturday 15 December 2007 11:07:02 Thomas Zander wrote: I think that is the bottom line here is; do we want phonon to work for a bigger chunk of people or not? Having more backends seems like a good thing to me... That is entirely not the point here. We're months past features freeze, we'll

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 14:08:32 Matt Rogers wrote: How do people feel about this as rough planning? How about starting a new thread for it instead? Good call. I'll post a more thought-through proposal shortly. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 16:59:16 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: Well, I think that *AFTER* 4.0 it is wrong to continue doing feature-based releases, and we could experiment a bit with schedule-driven ones. If it is 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 months it is open for discussion. But the basic idea is:

Re: What to do about the newssl branch?

2007-12-12 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:47:15 Allen Winter wrote: Please see Andreas Hartmetz's message in kde-core-devel entitled Request to merge the newssl branch. Nobody has responded to the message yet. I'm not in the position to judge, unfortunately. If there are no known regressions that

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-11 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 20:40:38 Allen Winter wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 10:07:09 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:10:36 Matt Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:08:09 Tom Albers wrote: However, seeing as the change has already been made,

Re: Fwd: [Kde-pim] Request to exclude KMail from the KDE 4.0 release

2007-12-07 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Friday 07 December 2007 00:49:08 Allen Winter wrote: Yes, KMail is really as bad as indicated in the enclosed message. And so are many of the KDEPIM apps. That matches what Mirko of KDAB told me. He also said that it should be fine by April. One question (therefore CC: Thiago), what is

Re: Tagging release date RC2.

2007-12-04 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 01:55:54 Allen Winter wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 16:22:27 Sebastian Kuegler wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 20:46:19 Tom Albers wrote: The techbase page has no date assigned to tagging and releasing RC2. Was the plan to tag it this week and release

Re: kdewebdev in KDE 4.0

2007-12-04 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 18:49:02 Paulo Moura Guedes wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2007 13:29:53 Andras Mantia wrote:  there was a discussion in October about this issue, but as someone brought my attention to it (I build from svn and didn't read the whole announcement), it seems that

Delaying 4.0?

2007-11-27 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
Our current schedule says that we'll be tagging 4.0 coming week. I propose shifting the release into January and instead doing -rc2 next. That gives us one more month for getting rid of the showstoppers that are still there, and also for polishing the user experience, artwork and translations.

Re: KDE Dev Platform Status

2007-11-25 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Sunday 25 November 2007 10:03:03 Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Sonntag 25 November 2007 schrieb Albert Astals Cid: A Diumenge 25 Novembre 2007, Allen Winter va escriure: Howdy, Are we willing to permit BIC changes to the Dev Platform? The question you need to make yourself is: Did we

Re: Removing kregexpedit and kcalc

2007-11-25 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Sunday 25 November 2007 17:38:20 Thomas Zander wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 17:21:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Both don't work at all, and there's no maintainer. I vote for them to be removed of KDE. Try posting a blog first to ask if someone will step up to do the work. That's 4.1

Re: Removing kregexpedit and kcalc

2007-11-25 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Sunday 25 November 2007 19:46:52 Cyrille Berger wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007, Sebastian Kuegler wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 17:38:20 Thomas Zander wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 17:21:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Both don't work at all, and there's no maintainer. I vote

Re: getting together all release critical for KDE issues in Qt4

2007-11-21 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 23:00:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: if you think this is a good idea, i'd like to announce this on k-c-d. Such a list is exactly what I thought when reading the thread on k-c-d, it helps us concentrate on the real issues and gives TT a reference to what they can do to

Re: Next Tagging

2007-11-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 17:15:57 Dirk Mueller wrote: Open questions: a) branch kdelibs etc, so that we can provide a 4.0.1 with just bugfixes relatively short term? b) platform trunk remains frozen? is open for new features? I'd say people may only commit things to kdelibs that get us

Re: beta5 or rc1

2007-11-10 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Saturday 10 November 2007 22:01:09 Tom Albers wrote: Based on the beta goals page, we are getting closer to a release candidate but not quite ready yet. So I would like to propose to insert a beta5. What does this mean for the final release date? -- sebas http://www.kde.org |