Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Wednesday 05 of August 2009 08:17:03 John Tapsell wrote: > Agreed. I can't get the hang of svn backporting, and so I simply never do > it. I'm a bit scared hearing this.. Maybe because being packager I usually rely on developers to decide about the way product is supposed to look like (not t

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 5 d'agost de 2009, John Tapsell va escriure: > 2009/8/4 Aaron J. Seigo : > >> - especially with multiple branches synchronization - which leads to > >> bugfixes sometimes not hitting latest 'soon-to-be-stable' branch (4.3 > >> now) or not hitting on time, as developers seem to be devote

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread John Tapsell
2009/8/4 Aaron J. Seigo : >> - especially with multiple branches synchronization - which leads to >> bugfixes sometimes not hitting latest 'soon-to-be-stable' branch (4.3 now) >> or not hitting on time, as developers seem to be devoted to trunk >> (sometimes even when 4.3 in this case is not releas

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Indeed, but unfortunately it as well sheds some light on amount of bugs > actually introduced during development, and from downstream point of view > it makes all 4.x.0 releases to be treated like development releases. that's fine; if that's the

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Tom Albers
Op Tuesday 04 August 2009 15:19 schreef u: > On Tuesday 04 of August 2009 11:14:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 August 2009, John Tapsell wrote: > > > We still get lots of flack for the complete mess we made of 4.0 etc. > > > > i won't even argue the basis of your statement, but i will s

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Eike Hein
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Partially it's because KDE developers seem to be overloaded with amount of > work - especially with multiple branches synchronization - which leads to > bugfixes sometimes not hitting latest 'soon-to-be-stable' branch (4.3 now) or > not hitting on time, as developers se

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 04 of August 2009 11:14:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday 04 August 2009, John Tapsell wrote: > > We still get lots of flack for the complete mess we made of 4.0 etc. > > i won't even argue the basis of your statement, but i will say that > regardless of what anyone thinks about 4.0

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 04 August 2009, John Tapsell wrote: > We still get lots of flack for the complete mess we made of 4.0 etc. i won't even argue the basis of your statement, but i will say that regardless of what anyone thinks about 4.0 it should not create subsequent paralysis and start us down a path

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 10:58:44 John Tapsell wrote: > 2009/8/4 Dirk Mueller : > > On Monday 03 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > >> Essentially, it's a highly noticable visual > >> glitch and a functional regression. > > > > We're too late in the process to wait for this for 4.3.0. Hopefully it >

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-04 Thread John Tapsell
2009/8/4 Dirk Mueller : > On Monday 03 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > >> Essentially, it's a highly noticable visual >> glitch and a functional regression. > > We're too late in the process to wait for this for 4.3.0. Hopefully it gets > solved for 4.3.1. I'm very sorry. I beg you to can change y

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-03 Thread Eike Hein
Dirk Mueller wrote: > We're too late in the process to wait for this for 4.3.0. Hopefully it gets > solved for 4.3.1. I'm very sorry. That's ok, the consensus seems to be that it's not a blocker. We'll just have to make sure it's fixed in time for 4.3.1; I'll look into that now that my main dev

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-03 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Monday 03 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > Essentially, it's a highly noticable visual > glitch and a functional regression. We're too late in the process to wait for this for 4.3.0. Hopefully it gets solved for 4.3.1. I'm very sorry. Greetings, Dirk

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-03 Thread Eike Hein
Andreas Pakulat wrote: > You may call it a "feature regression", the author of konsole might call > it a conscious decision. Looking at the context menu of the kpart and > the "real" app, they are having the same options. So I guess this might > have been done on purpose. That's how things started

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-03 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 03.08.09 02:32:50, Eike Hein wrote: > Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > it's not a data loss bug, just not a very pretty thing. it also only seems > > to > > affect the top-left of the scrolled viewport. this is something that would > > be > > very good to fix in 4.3.1 for sure, but i don't think it

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 02 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > Michael Pyne wrote: > > I'm not sure I would call it a *blocker* either, but this is *the* > > terminal application we're talking about. it doesn't affect konsole itself, just users of the kpart (at least according to my testing here.. shout if i'm w

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Eike Hein
Michael Pyne wrote: > I'm not sure I would call it a *blocker* either, but this is *the* terminal > application we're talking about. The effect is also prominent in Yakuake so > it probably affects all users of KonsolePart. It's actually specific to the KPart, so yeah, I'm going to drown in bug

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Eike Hein
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > it's not a data loss bug, just not a very pretty thing. it also only seems to > affect the top-left of the scrolled viewport. this is something that would be > very good to fix in 4.3.1 for sure, but i don't think it's a release blocker? Dunno, that's what I'm wondering :

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Michael Pyne
On Sunday 02 August 2009 20:01:01 you wrote: > On Sunday 02 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this one seems to be fairly serious: > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186745 > > it's not a data loss bug, just not a very pretty thing. it also only seems > to affect the top-lef

Re: Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday 02 August 2009, Eike Hein wrote: > Hi, > > this one seems to be fairly serious: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186745 it's not a data loss bug, just not a very pretty thing. it also only seems to affect the top-left of the scrolled viewport. this is something that would be ve

Possible 4.3.0 blocker in the Konsole KPart?

2009-08-02 Thread Eike Hein
Hi, this one seems to be fairly serious: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186745 Basically, when you open the context menu in the Konsole KPart, most of the time you'll end up with the string "No text" overlayed over the ter- minal in the top-left corner. Also, the context menu has regresse