El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 06:31:56, Martin Gräßlin va escriure:
> On Monday 04 June 2012 01:26:01 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > It's not about hurting or not (that it does, see how Martin got confused
> > > and probably lost time wonderin
El Diumenge, 3 de juny de 2012, a les 23:54:30, Scott Kitterman va escriure:
> On Monday, June 04, 2012 01:20:33 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 00:51:30, Kevin Kofler va escriure:
> > > On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > I know building pa
El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 01:26:01, Kevin Kofler va escriure:
> On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > It's not about hurting or not (that it does, see how Martin got confused
> > and probably lost time wondering how something like that could be
> > happening).
>
> Oh, an
On Monday 04 June 2012 18:34:40 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> This issue is even a bigger problem if your fellow developers compile your
> code from scratch and then file a bug by version "Compiled from sources".
> Should happen much more often, no? :)
quite the opposite. Most users who actuall
Am Montag, 4. Juni 2012, 18:01:29 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
> On Monday 04 June 2012 15:18:11 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > On Monday 04 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > > That means that people report bugs against different incarnations of the
> > > same packages, which makes bugs hard to find -- it
On Monday 04 June 2012 15:18:11 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> On Monday 04 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > That means that people report bugs against different incarnations of the
> > same packages, which makes bugs hard to find -- it doesn't work as we
> > can't verify the exact state of the code a
On Monday 04 June 2012 10:52:13 you wrote:
> On Sunday, June 03, 2012 20:46:56 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > I don't want to blame anyone (that's why I did not name the distros).
>
> Well, it's a specific distro pushing out packages too early to its users
> (and in this case, a group that doesn't under
On Monday 04 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> That means that people report bugs against different incarnations of the
> same packages, which makes bugs hard to find -- it doesn't work as we
> can't verify the exact state of the code a bug is filed against.
That almost never makes a difference
To get some more info for this discussion I asked about Gnome
They put tars on their public ftp server on the Monday and release on the
Wednesday
09:49 < Riddell> didrocks: doesn't that lead to lots of comments on news sites
and user forums "gnome 3.2 is released, why don't I have packages yet
On Sunday, June 03, 2012 20:46:56 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> I don't want to blame anyone (that's why I did not name the distros).
Well, it's a specific distro pushing out packages too early to its users (and
in this case, a group that doesn't understand that these are not 4.8.80
packages until we
On Monday, June 04, 2012 01:26:01 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > It's not about hurting or not (that it does, see how Martin got confused
> > and probably lost time wondering how something like that could be
> > happening).
>
> Oh, and what Martin actua
On Monday 04 June 2012 01:26:01 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > It's not about hurting or not (that it does, see how Martin got confused
> > and probably lost time wondering how something like that could be
> > happening).
>
> Oh, and what Martin actuall
On Monday, June 04, 2012 01:20:33 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 00:51:30, Kevin Kofler va escriure:
> > On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > I know building packages take time, that's why we give you early access,
> > > you should build the pac
On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> It's not about hurting or not (that it does, see how Martin got confused
> and probably lost time wondering how something like that could be
> happening).
Oh, and what Martin actually got confused by is a failure of processes on the
KDE end: The
El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 00:51:30, Kevin Kofler va escriure:
> On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > I know building packages take time, that's why we give you early access,
> > you should build the packages but you should not publish them before they
> > are official.
>
- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> I will also remind you that KDE is as popular as it is today ONLY
> because it
> is widely packaged in distributions. Without packaging, KDE's
> userbase would
> be only an extremely tiny fraction of what it is now. I can also
> point you to
> several projects w
On Monday 04 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> I know building packages take time, that's why we give you early access,
> you should build the packages but you should not publish them before they
> are official.
>
> If your packaging system does not support that maybe you need to refine
> your
El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 00:26:29, Kevin Kofler va escriure:
> On Sunday 03 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > I know, and that's an abuse of the privilege we give them having the
> > packages before the release.
>
> How does it hurt to have unreleased packages in an unreleased Fe
On Sunday 03 June 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> I know, and that's an abuse of the privilege we give them having the
> packages before the release.
How does it hurt to have unreleased packages in an unreleased Fedora? We are
NOT pushing packages of a new release to Fedora releases (not even th
On Sunday 03 June 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> So I would like to know, what's the reason why distros ship the packages
> too early
Because building packages in Rawhide is not instant. We are still building
4.8.80 packages. But of course the core parts (including kde-workspace) are
already buil
On Jun 3, 2012 8:47 PM, "Martin Gräßlin" wrote:
> I don't want to blame anyone (that's why I did not name the distros). I
want
> to know what we can do that versions which should not go to the users end
up
> on the users's system. And somehow I think it's also in the interest of
the
> distribution
On Sunday 03 June 2012 20:34:55 Andrea Scarpino wrote:
> Well...In Arch I released the packages some hour before Tom's thread about
> calling off beta1. You guys decided to delay it only, so I kept the
> packages in the unstable repo to let our devs test them, but I didn't
> announce them.
> I gue
On Jun 3, 2012 8:40 PM, "Albert Astals Cid" wrote:
> Come on, you put your packages available before the official tar files are
> available in the ftp and you're saying you did nothing wrong?
That repo is empty for 9 months per year.
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El Diumenge, 3 de juny de 2012, a les 20:34:55, Andrea Scarpino va escriure:
> On Jun 3, 2012 8:08 PM, "Martin Gräßlin" wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this weekend KWin received bug reports against 4.8.80 from distro packages
> > ([1], [2]). This quite surprised me as beta should not be out before
>
- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> Well...In Arch I released the packages some hour before Tom's thread
> about calling off beta1.
Please try not to confuse me with Albert.
Best,
Tom Albers
KDE Sysadmin
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On Jun 3, 2012 8:08 PM, "Martin Gräßlin" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> this weekend KWin received bug reports against 4.8.80 from distro packages
> ([1], [2]). This quite surprised me as beta should not be out before
Monday.
>
> Now I concider this as an issue if users can report bugs for a version we
do
Hi all,
this weekend KWin received bug reports against 4.8.80 from distro packages
([1], [2]). This quite surprised me as beta should not be out before Monday.
Now I concider this as an issue if users can report bugs for a version we do
not yet expect. E.g. in KWin I had not yet created the ver
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