RE: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread Denversam samuelv
I apologize if I was not sufficiently clear, but I do not consider advocacy for homosexual marriage to be anti-libertarian. As I said (I'll leave my previous post set out below) homosexual marriage is a "special case" because it's just a matter of the government needing to draw a line somewhere

Re: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread Denversam samuelv
The problem with arguments from analogy is that one first has to establish that the analogy one has employed is the most appropriate. Those of us who advocate against recognition of protected status for homosexuality would want to analogize it to something that is not protected; those of us who

RE: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread Newsom Michael
Mindful of Eugene's admonitions, let me suggest that there is a fundamental jurisprudential problem lurking behind all of this passionate discourse on a difficult and contentious subject. The problem has to do with, for want of a better term, "baseline" or perspective or point of view. If we t

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2004-04-12 Thread Newsom Michael
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Re: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread FRAP428
I will have to mull over Alan's response as well as the others.  I guess that as I have encountered issues or as issues have emerged or changed in society, I have missed having the fine minds of my law professors around to "chew over" my ruminations. Regarding what Alan said regarding defining a

Re: From the list custodian

2004-04-12 Thread lweinberg
April 12, 2004 To the List Dear Gene, I am teaching a new "the Constitution and religion" seminar at Texas this semester and have discovered it is next to impossible to keep students from proving to each other that there is or is not an intelligent design, a supreme being, an afterlife, et

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Re: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread A.E. Brownstein
In thinking and teaching about these issues I find it useful to develop analogies. One of the most useful analogies I employ is that between sexual orientation and religion, gay people and religious minorities, and rights of intimate association and free exercise rights. Employing that techniqu

Re: On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread Will Linden
At 10:03 AM 4/12/04 -0600, you wrote: I can't speak for Prof. Duncan or anyone else, but my major problem with homosexuality is not the conduct itself (which I consider far less objectionable than many other things more rampant in society), but that I am being required by society in general and th

On topic discussion regarding homosexuality

2004-04-12 Thread Denversam samuelv
I don't think Prof. Patterson needs to be spanked, because I'd like to respond to Prof. Patterson's previous question ('why do conservatives seem to object to homosexuality more strongly than other conduct they consider immoral?') in an on-topic way. I can't speak for Prof. Duncan or anyone els

Re: From the list custodian

2004-04-12 Thread FRAP428
Considering my hand "spanked." I can only plead being deprived of conversations with law professors. "Broader moral or religious questions, such as whether homosexuality is morally proper, how religious people should react to it, and so on are *not* on-topic.  Naturally they're related to the lis

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2004-04-12 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: I don't think I need to go further into the need to keep posts on the list as polite and substantive as possible -- and to think twice before hitting "enter," both to look again over the substance of the message, and to make sure it's being sent to the right place. Let me remind people