Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread Brad Pardee
Paul Finkelman wrote: Sounds very much like someone tooting his own horn? Is excessive pride also a sin? Interestingly enough, it sounded like somebody who was accused of selfishness attempting to place his actions in context in order to defend the impugning of his character. One can on

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread Paul Finkelman
Brad Pardee writes: "It sounds to me very much like the Navy has, in essence, said that a person can only be a chaplain if they act as if they don't actually believe anything. That doesn't sound like what 200+ years worth of American fighting men and women were willing to die to defend." Ther

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread Gordon James Klingenschmitt
Having lost this debate on its intellectual merits, Mr. Finkelman resorts to personal attacks on my character.     Yet I agree with him on one point, that pride is a terrible sin, so I shall here endeavor to humbly practice Proverbs 27:2:  "Let another praise you, and not your own mouth; someone

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread David E. Guinn
From: "Brad Pardee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It sounds to me very much like the Navy has, in essence, said that a person can only be a chaplain if they act as if they don't actually believe anything. That doesn't sound like what 200+ years worth of American fighting men and women were willing to

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread David E. Guinn
I hardly agree that he lost on the merits of the argument.  I have yet to read any reasonable interpretation of law or history that supports your position. - Original Message - From: Gordon James Klingenschmitt To: Paul Finkelman ; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Mon

Re: Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-10-02 Thread Steven Jamar
On 10/2/06, Brad Pardee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It sounds to me very much like the Navy has, in essence, said that a person can only be a chaplain if they act as if they don't actually believe anything. That doesn't sound like what 200+ years worth of American fighting men and women were wi

RE: Locke v. Davey Analysis

2006-10-02 Thread Conkle, Daniel O.
To the extent that the decision in Locke is a product of general themes in Rehnquist’s constitutional jurisprudence, I think the theme of states’ rights—mentioned earlier by Rick Tepker—should not be overlooked.  Rehnquist wrote a series of important Establishment Clause opinions upholding