RE: Pagan religion

2007-12-18 Thread Ed Brayton
I noticed many years ago that "pagan" had largely replaced "secular humanist" as the religious right's favorite phrase for "Them." In the 80s, "secular humanist" was the ubiquitous word for those unnamed evil people who will destroy everything good and godly about America. Then somewhere along the

Re: Pagan religion

2007-12-18 Thread Cogan, Susan L.
On 12/18/07 7:32 AM, "Steven Jamar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I guess the Pagans I know would disagree with this almost as much as > they disagree about the exact doctrine of Paganism or as Christians disagree > about various Christian doctrines. I have noticed that conservative Chris

Re: Pagan religion

2007-12-18 Thread Will Linden
IF "Paganism" is a religion, then "Monotheism" is also A religion (and must always be Capitalized.) Similarly with "Henotheism" and "Animism". Or are we to be told that polytheists who don't follow the twentieth century Garnerian "revival" paradigm are not "real Pagans", in the same way t

Re: The Impaler's Wall

2007-12-18 Thread RJLipkin
Mr. Linden writes: On the other hand, I have had atheists try to explain away the lack-of-evils in real-world atheist societies by claiming that Communism is "really" a religion. Does this mean that atheism and secular humanism are? Wow!! Strange "atheists" in my book. If communism is

Re: The Impaler's Wall

2007-12-18 Thread Will Linden
On the other hand, I have had atheists try to explain away the lack-of-evils in real-world atheist societies by claiming that Communism is "really" a religion. Does this mean that atheism and secular humanism are? On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mr. Linden writes: > > Ther

Re: Pagan religion

2007-12-18 Thread Steven Jamar
Well, I guess the Pagans I know would disagree with this almost as much as they disagree about the exact doctrine of Paganism or as Christians disagree about various Christian doctrines. Pagan does not mean just "not me" or just "not monotheists". The Roman and Greeks were described by Chr

Re: The Impaler's Wall

2007-12-18 Thread RJLipkin
Mr. Linden writes: There is no religion of "Paganism". "Pagans" are defined by what they are NOT. (And as a poster on Magicknet said, "I might as well call myself Not Tom Mix." Forgive me, I've been paying only a cursory attention to this thread, but does the above remark ap