FW: Mass self-flaggelation for the Muslim holiday Ashura

2008-01-25 Thread David E. Guinn
>From a colleague. -Original Message- From: Hamoudi, Haider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Just a few points on this, from someone who would know very little about the New York law aspect of it, but a reasonable amount concerning the Islamic law side. First, the practice of bl

RE: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
There's much to what Marty says, but I'm still not sure how it all works out. I take it that Marty's position accepts Palmore's conclusion that the Equal Protection Clause remains in play in custody cases, even if an unbigoted judge could conclude that a child in 1980 Florida really would

A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Marty: I appreciate your argument, but let me probe it a little further. Say a judge says that it's in the child's best interests -- all else being equal -- to be raised a more religiously observant parent, rather than an atheist, agnostic, or someone who's not very devout. (I've

Circumcision, Religion and Custody in Oregon

2008-01-25 Thread Michael MASINTER
Apropos the ongoing discussion of the role religious beliefs should play in custody disputes, the Oregon Supreme Court decided today that a 12 year old boy should have some say in the custodial parent's decision to have him circumcisd, though that say should occur within the context of the noncusto

Re: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread marty . lederman
Good question. We've been over this before in other contexts. First of all -- is it really the case that there's empirical evidence (as opposed to a judicial assumption based on anecdote) that a religious upbringing is more likely to keep a child out of trouble? Religious cultures, after all,

RE: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Ed Brayton
Let me just add to what Eugene says here. In numerous cases I've found over the last few weeks, a judge has been quite blatant about using such anecdotal data to justify preferring religion to non-religion. In one case the judge said: "And I was a little bit distraught in finding that there was no

Re: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Richard Dougherty
Just on Marty's first point -- and this might be off-list material: there is abundant evidence that religion has a positive influence on the family and the social order. Though I do only some work in this area, I have never seen an empirical study that suggests otherwise (if others have I'd be inte

RE: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Brownstein, Alan
Richard makes a fair point – but if we take this thread back to the original dispute in which people of different faiths shared custody of a child at least to some extent, the question isn’t whether religion has a positive influence on the family and the social order but rather whether particula