Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Douglas Laycock
Thank you for the kind words to all the list members who spoke up. This attack comes from only two students; the gay rights groups on on Grounds read the brief I helped write in the marriage cases and declined to join in. The two students have gotten undue attention in the press, presumably bec

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Sorry – I think I misread the initial attack on you as an attack on Paul. It all just merged into a massive ball of ad hominem in my mind From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Hillel Y. Levin Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Steven Jamar
Mr. Green, Law and religion academics have been disagreeing with Doug Laycock for years on the meaning of and proper scope of religious freedom. Prof. Laycock is well aware of the substantive impact of the issues he addresses — or as aware if those impacts as one can be on something so uncert

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
Eugene: I take it you have no problem with Mr. Green's personal attacks on me? ;-) On Sunday, May 25, 2014, Volokh, Eugene wrote: >Mr. Green: This is an academic discussion list, for > substantive arguments of substantive legal questions having to do with the > law of governmen

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Mr. Green: You obviously take a dim view of the value of the list, and thus seem not terribly interested in maintaining the value of the list (at least as those of us who do value the list understand it). There are many forums online in which you can express your views. But you

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
I see I've touched a nerve with some pompous profs. How about discussing the article rather than clutching your pseudo-academic pearls?? ---Jimmy Green On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote: >Mr. Green: This is an academic discussion list, for > substantive ar

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
This list is primarily a vehicle for academic self-promotion so drop the sanctimony Volokh... ---Jimmy green On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:27 PM, jim green wrote: > Is this the same Eugene Volokh who is obsessed with gay men converting > him? The same one who supported ex-gay conversion therapy?

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Mr. Green: This is an academic discussion list, for substantive arguments of substantive legal questions having to do with the law of government and religion. Please focus on substantive argument, rather than personal attacks, whether on Prof. Horwitz, Prof. Laycock, or me, and

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
Is this the same Eugene Volokh who is obsessed with gay men converting him? The same one who supported ex-gay conversion therapy? The same one who claimed gay sex was inherently dangerous? A stroll through your blog is a case study of a closet case... ---Jimmy Green On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
I see Horowitz is fast out of the gate defending Laycock as usual. I have responded ad nauseum to you in your comments section of your blog but as usual you deflect with a slew of questions as if I were your student in some parody of The Paper Chase... Ask me a serious question and I'll give you

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I see – “scandal” means “expressing views you disagree with.” Have you actually read the work of Doug Laycock (one of the top Religion Clauses scholars in the country)? Do you have a substantive response to his substantive arguments? Or is your view based on, to borrow a term,

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Paul Horwitz
Could you be more specific? What is it you suppose Prof. Laycock to have done that puts him in the same company as Regnerus? Are you suggesting that his work fails academic standards? That any relevant work as counsel was subject to different standards than those that apply to other lawyers? If

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
Says the straight male UGA law professor. I see UGA hasn't changed all that much in the almost 20 years since I received my JD. The outright bigotry was expected but the smug "I have gay friends but..." heterosexism that Professor Levin exemplifies was worse in many respects. ---Jimmy Green UGA

Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Hillel Y. Levin
I don't agree with Doug's views on these issues, but this is an obscene witch hunt. On Sunday, May 25, 2014, jim green wrote: > Too bad it took a few brave college students to do what "responsible > academics" (including many on this list) have failed to do for years... > > > http://www.timesdis

Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread jim green
Too bad it took a few brave college students to do what "responsible academics" (including many on this list) have failed to do for years... http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/latest-news-ap/lgbt-activists-take-u-va-professor-to-task-for-stance/article_fa5680ce-e36e-11e3-a4ed-0017a43b2370.html -