RE: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-18 Thread Alan Brownstein
Title: Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" I think there is another problem here in addition to issues of offense and the setting up of an alternative religion that Doug describes. Arguably, the state is not simply passively reflecting the secularization of a practice or im

RE: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-17 Thread Douglas Laycock
Title: Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"     The general problem in these cases is when to say that a practice or image with undoubtedly religious origins has become so secularized that we can now ignore the religious component, and let government sponsor the practice or use

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-17 Thread Steven Jamar
On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:54 AM, Gene Garman wrote: Jim, The Founding Fathers severely limited religion influence in respect to public office when they commanded: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." The First Congress se

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Gene Garman
Jim, The Founding Fathers severely limited religion influence in respect to public office when they commanded: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." The First Congress severely limited the power of Congress in resp

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Ed Darrell
Too much of the really good music is religiously related; what of Bach, for example, could not e said to have been written for religious reasons?  And, on the other hand, what of Bach's religiously-dedicated music is so overtly religious as to suggest any endorsement of religion?   At higher levels

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 10/16/2005 9:57:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most public school music instructors are probably not familiar with music traditions outside those common to the majority, nevertheless it is not the business of government, at any level, to es

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Steven Jamar
For some Washington Post articles on this:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/15/AR2005101501471.htmlhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/15/AR2005101501492.html -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar                                     vox:  202-806-8017Howard Un

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Gene Garman
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Richard Dougherty Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 12:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" The band director doesn&

RE: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Alan Brownstein
issues for Law Academics; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" The band director doesn't seem to make clear whether he thinks it is illegal to play it, but is trying to prevent trouble. List members so far have suggested this is

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Steven Jamar
critic was saying -- that you can't play "Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring" by Bach because of the title -- but you could play "The Devil Went Down to Georgia."  Both equally preposterous propositions.The law is not nearly as bad or restrictive as it is painted to be by

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread Richard Dougherty
The band director doesn't seem to make clear whether he thinks it is illegal to play it, but is trying to prevent trouble. List members so far have suggested this is an over-reaction; if that is true (it may very well be), why do you think people have drawn that conclusion? Answering that may

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread Francis Beckwith
Title: Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" Although I do agree with Ed that this is an over-reaction, what if the song had been “Jesus went down to Georgia” and the objectors were non-Christians, or if the song were played in Cobb County and it was the evolution disclaimer put to th

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread FRAP428
Duncanville also included a challenge to the selection of Christian song as the choir's theme song, and the court held that the selection of the song did not violate the Establishment Clause (and also wrote about the use of sacred music in schools generally) because it had the secular purpose of te

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread Ed Darrell
Great example of over-reaction with little basis, it seems to me.  Someone mentioned the Duncanville case, which was about sports team prayers and not music, but it should be noted that Duncanville's wind ensemble, arguably the best high school band in the nation, regularly plays religious music wi

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread FRAP428
In a message dated 10/15/05 11:15:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I like the song. . . . I just thought it was kind of ironic that they could play that song, but they wouldn't be allowed to play a song about God." . . . What I find interesting about this letter is the mis

"The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
An amusing little incident; thanks to Becky Dale for the pointer: http://www.potomacnews.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WPN/MGArticle/WPN_ BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128767512952 Until recently, the Charlie Daniels Band song "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" was i