Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Arthur Spitzer
I received a celebratory e-mail message from NARAL this morning that may help explain the result: *North Dakota voters defeated Measure 3, the anti-choice ballot initiative.*What an amazing win! North Dakota voters understood that freedom of religion is already protected in the U.S.

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Vance R. Koven
Behind NARAL's many inaccuracies lies a hint of what I believe may be the sociological basis for answering Eugene's question. What follows is purely speculative on my part, so just treat it as a hypothesis. The initial RFRA push was, speaking broadly, in line with a sense by evangelical

RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Douglas Laycock
...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Vance R. Koven Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:23 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota Behind NARAL's many inaccuracies lies a hint of what I believe may be the sociological basis

RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Friedman, Howard M.
referenda and lost by 76%. Howard Friedman -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wed 6/13/2012 11:06 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota I

PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Douglas Laycock
I meant to say that Vance's point about the fears of Muslims and Sharia law is surely also part of the explanation. The evangelical rank and file conceives religious liberty mostly in terms of their own religious liberty - they are certainly not the only ones, but as Vance notes, they are an

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Marci Hamilton
434-243-8546 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Vance R. Koven Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:23 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Lawyer2974
: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:23 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota Behind NARAL's many inaccuracies lies a hint of what I believe may be the sociological basis for answering Eugene's question. What follows is purely

Re: PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Vance R. Koven
* To: *apos;Law Religion issues for Law Academicsapos; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu* Sent: *Wed, Jun 13, 2012 20:49:25 GMT+00:00* Subject: *PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota I meant to say that Vance’s point about the fears of Muslims and Sharia law is surely also

Re: PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread hamilton02
-Original Message- From: Finkelman, Paul paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu To: religionlaw religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:32 pm Subject: Re: PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota Among many other reasons it may

Re: PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread hamilton02
Laycock dlayc...@virginia.edu To: apos;Law Religion issues for Law Academicsapos; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 20:49:25 GMT+00:00 Subject: PS RE: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota I meant to say that Vance’s point about the fears of Muslims

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread hamilton02
Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota RFRA opens the door to child sex abuse or medical neglect? Really?! --Don Clark Nationwide Special Counsel United Church of Christ In a message dated 6/13/2012 3:55:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hamilto...@aol.com writes

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Lawyer2974
) [_mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu_ (mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu?) ] On Behalf Of Vance R. Koven Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:23 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota Behind NARAL's many inaccuracies

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Arthur Spitzer
constitutional amendment in North Dakota *RFRA opens the door to child sex abuse or medical neglect? Really?!* ** *--Don Clark* * Nationwide Special Counsel* * United Church of Christ* In a message dated 6/13/2012 3:55:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hamilto...@aol.com writes: The truth

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread hamilton02
(212) 790-0215 hamilto...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Lawyer2974 lawyer2...@aol.com To: religionlaw religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:27 pm Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota The sweeping generalities of these statements

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread hamilton02
Message- From: Arthur Spitzer artspit...@gmail.com To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 10:40 pm Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota Their lawyers embrace the First Amendment ... to avoid responsiblity

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Arthur Spitzer
: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota *RFRA opens the door to child sex abuse or medical neglect? Really?!* ** *--Don Clark* * Nationwide Special Counsel* * United Church of Christ* In a message dated 6/13/2012 3:55:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hamilto...@aol.com

Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota

2012-06-13 Thread Lawyer2974
) To: religionlaw _religion...@lists.ucla.edu_ (mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu) Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 5:21 pm Subject: Re: Defeat of RFRA constitutional amendment in North Dakota RFRA opens the door to child sex abuse or medical neglect? Really?! --Don Clark Nationwide Special Counsel