Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-28 Thread Michael Masinter
Bob, Because an applicant may believe that he can perform the essential job functions with reasonable accommodations (e.g., a voluntary job swap), or in some cases that working on his sabbath is not actually essential, I don't think his answer would be fraudulent or given in bad faith. I

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-28 Thread b...@jmcenter.org
Mike, I totally agree with the way you stated the issue -- it's the candidate's ability to perform the essential requirements of the job, not their religion that is the issue. Consequently, the employer need only ask: "Can you work Saturdays?" What is absent from this discussion, is the candidat

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-27 Thread Michael Masinter
Why, short of religious bias, would an employer ask about an applicant's religious observances or practices? Applicants may have many reasons for preferring not to work on Saturday, or Sunday, or whatever day is in question. An employer who wishes to ascertain whether an employee can perfo

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-27 Thread b...@jmcenter.org
Mike, Why isn't the failure to disclose incapacity to perform essential duties of the job a form of fraud by the applicant upon the prospective employer (putting aside the fact that employers aren't allowed to ask the candidate his/her religion)? Bob Ritter On July 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM Michael M

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-27 Thread b...@jmcenter.org
Marc, you state: "no employer with any choice at all will hire such a person" and call it discrimination. If an applicant cannot fulfill the responsibilities of the job, the employer shouldn't hire the candidate. That's not discrimination, rather its sound judgment. I'm sorry if the idiosyncrasies

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
The Court rejected the argument that the employee has a duty to disclose his religion, and then not to change it, in Hobbie v. Unemployment Appeals Comm'n (1986 or 87). That was a constitutional case, not a Title VII case. On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:31:01 -0400 Michael Masinter wrote: >Marc, > >I

Re: FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-26 Thread Michael Masinter
Marc, I previously characterized the panel discussion of Fouche's good faith as improper; I did so because I agree that an employee has no obligation to disclose his religious beliefs (or his disability) when applying for a job. But I am not convinced the court erred on the merits for tw

FW: Fouche V. NJ Transit

2012-07-26 Thread Marc Stern
The District Court missed an obvious possible accommodation: swapping shifts voluntarily with other employees. in fact, cases very similar to this one get resolved by such swaps. See, eg, Myer v NYCTA, 674 NE2d 305 (1996). So not only did the courts ignore this possibility, but they added the