Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Jlof
I appreciate Prof. Dane's serious response to what I wrote. And, for-the-record, I would like to say that although I am a Bible-believing, Calvinistic, postmillennialst, I (we) are very critical of the so-called "Religious Right" because most of their "leaders" are Republican Party cheerleaders

Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Ed Brayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment: Well, let’s see, please, if what I said is “utter nonsense” or “absurd.” In the New Testament, in Romans 13, 1-8, God tells us the purpose of civil government. It’s powers are ordained of God and our rulers are to be ministers of His Law. Do any of our th

Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Perry Dane
Hi, In one sense, John Lofton's notion of "operational atheism" has much more to it than meets the eye. Consider, for example, the views of "Radical Orthodox" Christian theologians (e.g., John Milbank) and some other important "post-liberal" contemporary Christian thinkers (e.g., Sta

Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread ArtSpitzer
In a message dated 12/13/05 2:42:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: St. Paul, in Romans 1:18ff, makes it clear that ALL men know there is a God; some worship Him, others don’t and hold down this truth (that there is a God) in unrighteousness. Thus, strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an “a

Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Will Linden
This sounds chillingly like the Stalinist insistence that people deserved to be purged because they were "objectively counter-revolutionary". And serves handily for labeling whoever the speaker has decided to dislike as "objectively fascist" or "objectively racist", or perhaps even "objectively Chr

Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Jlof
By saying, carefully, that the ACLU, ABA and the three branches of our national government are “de facto, operating” atheists I sought to head off the type of response below. Oh, well….So, please, let me, briefly, elaborate on what I meant by interspersing my comments among the comments of Ed Br

Re: Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Ed Brayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if Mr. Darby's effort is not redundant. Do we not already have the ACLU, ABA and the three branches of our national government which are, de facto, operating atheists? Just wondering...John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com and Recovering Republican...Also,

Hmmm, Atheist Law Center, Eh?

2005-12-13 Thread Jlof
I wonder if Mr. Darby's effort is not redundant. Do we not already have the ACLU, ABA and the three branches of our national government which are, de facto, operating atheists? Just wondering...John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com and Recovering Republican...Also, an interviewer of Mr. Darb