RE: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-16 Thread Sisk, Gregory C.
ary and an attendant preference for democratic institutions including the capacity of those institutions to provide protection to minorities. Greg Sisk -Original Message- From: Lupu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:42 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academi

RE: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-16 Thread Newsom Michael
Title: The quid pro quo theory See my comments below.   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berg, Thomas C. Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:27 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: The quid pro quo th

RE: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-16 Thread Lupu
The piece to which Michael Newsom refers is The Trouble with Accommodation, 60 GW L Rev. 743, 779-781(1992). But the 4th category is Weak EC, Weak FE (Michael accidentally wrote the 4th one as a repeat of the third). Chip Lupu On 16 Jun 2004 at 16:26, Newsom Michael wrote: > I apologize for

RE: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-16 Thread Newsom Michael
I apologize for responding to this post at this late date. However, I want to refer everybody to Lupu's piece (the name of which escapes me) in which he establishes a "grid" analysis of the two clauses. If I understand him aright, it goes something like this: (1) Strong EC, Strong FE (2) Strong

Re: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-11 Thread A.E. Brownstein
Eugene is correct that both religious and secular beliefs are incredibly varied and there is nothing like a literal quid pro quo or balance between the protection provided by the Free Exercise clause and the limits imposed by the Establishment Clause. (Although I think there would be more of a

RE: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-11 Thread Berg, Thomas C.
Eugene, I agree that very "global" quid pro quo theories -- like "broad Establishment Clause, broad Free Exercise Clause" -- do not spread their benefits to all religions equally. (For example, I think that "broad establishment clause, broad free exercise" tends to protect or benefit minority or o

Re: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-10 Thread Steven Jamar
Sorry, but I don't see any of this as demonstrable or even as really very relevant to the interpretation of or to a consideration of the value of the religion clauses. 1. Free exercise is a valuable thing regardless of a law insuring it which affects various groups differently. The different impa

Re: The quid pro quo theory

2004-06-10 Thread RJLipkin
In a message dated 6/10/2004 12:30:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not even sure that the benefits of a rigorous Free Exercise Clause and the burdens imposed by a rigorous Establishment Clause will even out if you aggregate the effects on all the religions.