Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-23 Thread Marty Lederman
> >> >> >> Douglas Laycock >> >> Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law >> >> University of Virginia Law School >> >> 580 Massie Road >> >> Charlottesville, VA 22903 >> >> 434-243-8546 >> >> >> &g

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-23 Thread Marty Lederman
4-243-8546 > > > > *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: > religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Kniffin, Eric N. > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:19 AM > *To:* 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' < > religionlaw@lists.ucla

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-23 Thread Michael Worley
n...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Kniffin, Eric N. > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:19 AM > *To:* 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' < > religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > *Subject:* RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a > hypothetical > > >

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-23 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
a.edu<mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c) Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical I

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Kniffin, Eric N.
half Of Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c) Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical I think their argument that courts simply cannot question any claim that religious exercise is sub

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Alan E Brownstein
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical We cite four federal district court decisions at pp. 228-229 in the book -- Luke v. Williams (Oregon); Sayed v. Proffitt (Colorado);

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2016-03-22 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
-8546 From: Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c) Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical I think their argument that courts simply cannot question any claim that religious exercis

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical Doug--That's a helpful clarification. It seems to me, then, that your position that the Little Sisters' claim poses a serious threat to religious liberty is based on your view that the gover

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Alan E Brownstein
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical We cite four federal district court decisions at pp. 228-229 in the book -- Luke v. Williams (Oregon); Sayed v. Proffitt (Colorado);

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Kniffin, Eric N.
PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical Doug--I understand that's the line you think Congress should have adopted, but that seems to be more a conclusion rather th

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
, March 22, 2016 3:54 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical Doug--I understand that's the line you think Congress should have adopted, but that seems to be more a conclusion rather than a test. If the pe

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Marty Lederman
egentLaw> | SSRN > <http://www.ssrn.com/author=519370> > > [image: cid:image001.jpg@01D0F61B.F29F9940] > <http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw> > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: > religionlaw-boun...@li

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Kniffin, Eric N.
Lupu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:40 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical We cite four federal district court decisions at pp. 228-229 in the book -- Luke v. W

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2016-03-22 Thread Bradley Jacob
http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw> -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Peabody Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:22 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sister

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2016-03-22 Thread Richard Foltin
22903 434-243-8546 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Ira Lupu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:40 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical We cit

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Michael Peabody
> Douglas Laycock > > Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law > > University of Virginia Law School > > 580 Massie Road > > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > > 434-243-8546 > > > > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
Behalf Of Ira Lupu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:40 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical We cite four federal district court decisions at pp. 228-229 in the book -- Luke v. Williams (Oregon); Sayed v. Prof

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Ira Lupu
Flegal.org >> Not Licensed in DC >> Practice Limited to Federal Court >> >> *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: >> religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ira Lupu >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:25 AM >> *To:* Law & Reli

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Kniffin, Eric N.
eligionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu>] On Behalf Of Ira Lupu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:25 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Siste

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2016-03-22 Thread Ira Lupu
l.org > ADFlegal.org > Not Licensed in DC > Practice Limited to Federal Court > > *From:* religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto: > religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ira Lupu > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:25 AM > *To:* Law & Religion issues fo

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Gregory S. Baylor
...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Ira Lupu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:25 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical Eric Kniffin writes that ". . . whether there is a subst

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Ira Lupu
the > claim of substantial burden on religion, according to the *Zubik* > petitioners. > > Douglas Laycock > Robert E. Scott Distinguished Professor of Law > University of Virginia > 580 Massie Road > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > 434-243-8546 >

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-22 Thread Kniffin, Eric N.
..@californialaw.org<mailto:mich...@californialaw.org>] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:27 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Paul Finkelman Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical I am asserting this only insofar as the degree of accommodatio

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-21 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
Religion issues for Law Academics; Paul Finkelman Subject: Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical I am asserting this only insofar as the degree of accommodation is considered insufficient by the individual hypothetical Adventist. (Which is highly hypothetical as the vast

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-21 Thread Michael Peabody
I am asserting this only insofar as the degree of accommodation is considered insufficient by the individual hypothetical Adventist. (Which is highly hypothetical as the vast majority gladly accept the EEOC accommodation.) An ideal hypothetical would simply involve a federal regulation that unint

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-21 Thread Laycock, H Douglas (hdl5c)
I think this employee would lose under existing Title VII law, for rejecting a reasonable accommodation. And the RFRA committee reports say that RFRA does not affect Title VII claims, although that is not in the statutory text. But if RFRA applied, I think the logic of petitioners' claim is that

Re: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-21 Thread Michael Peabody
Traditionally, Seventh-day Adventists have been very willing to accept the scope of EEOC accommodations, but Seventh-day Adventists do believe that the 10 Commandments are universal in application, but they must be voluntarily accepted in an environment free of coercion. In its strictest reading, t

RE: Zubik / Little Sisters - testing the scope via a hypothetical

2016-03-21 Thread Kwall, Roberta
Normally, I hesitate to opine on matters in which I am not thoroughly versed and I must confess that I am not up to speed on these cases. That said, I am an observant Jew and I do not travel or work on Shabbat (which also begins Friday night). In the traditional Jewish community, such swaps ar