RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Powered Repeater

2006-12-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have one of the little Motorola MTR-300 "Solar-powered" Repeaters on 2-Meters. It came from the factory promoted as a "Solar-powered" Repeater, and the Motorola instruction manual even gives the instructions for setting up the solar panels, etc. out in the field. It's a 19" rack-mount repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Anyone had any experience with EchoStation?

2006-12-30 Thread bbedoe
Hi All! Happy New Year, in advance! Has anyone had a chance to play around with EchoStation software, namely the "Announcement Machine" 73, Brian, WD9HSY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 meter split site rpt, eqpt recommendations?

2006-12-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And most important of all, USE CTCSS on the 10-Meter Repeater - especially the Receiver! Remember, there are only four - 10-Meter repeater channels to share - everywhere. They're unusable as it is, when the band opens up - a Real Mess!!! LJ -Original Message- >From: Nate Bargmann <

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Bob M.
The MSF5000 RSS is rather old. It will not start up under WinXP, although it might run under an older version. Like a lot of 1980/1990 Motorola DOS programs, it prints directly to the printer port. It expects a parallel printer - dot matrix, laser, inkjet, etc - that accepts character I/O. A lot o

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Powered Repeater

2006-12-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Doug Fitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Dec 30 19:53 -0600]: > To start the new year out on a positive note anyone on this list have > any experience building a solar powered repeater system? I'd like to > get a better understanding on the use of solar panels, charging > system, type of batteries us

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help troubleshooting a Motorola Mitrek UHF

2006-12-30 Thread JOHN B. KRUK
Miguel, I think you have some wiring wrong! Usually it is wired as follows: The GREEN goes to Pin 19 of the HEAD and is HOT A+ ORANGE goes to Pin 20 and is IGNITION (SWITCHED) A+ The SPEAKER connects to Pin 32 (Lo) and Pin 31 (Hi) of the HEAD. GL & 73's - John - K3KR --- Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Powered Repeater

2006-12-30 Thread w5zit
Our antenna pole and repeater blew down in a storm three years ago and when we investigated getting electric power restored it looked like about $500 to restore the power using a licensed electrician, so we looked into solar power. (A local ordinance forbid anyone but a licensed electrician fro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] wide band to cross band on narrow band

2006-12-30 Thread mch
I should add that NBFM is 5 kHz deviation while SNFM is 2.5 kHz. The receiver bandwidth is more narrow, but the TX the only 'change' is the deviation. To convert NBFM to SNFM, cut the deviation in half. That's it! The same applies to CTCSS/CDCSS - those are cut in half, too. Joe M. > It's a simpl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need help troubleshooting a Motorola Mitrek UHF

2006-12-30 Thread N9WYS
Miguel, If you are talking about the green and orange wires coming from the control head, these are power wires and not speaker wires... The radio needs these to see +12V (the orange being ignition sense, IIRC) on these before it can power up. Speaker needs to connect to Pins 3 and 5 on the 32-p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] wide band to cross band on narrow band

2006-12-30 Thread mch
It's a simple matter of lowering and raising the deviation on the TXs. In your case, with two repeaters, it's a simple level issue. Set your controllers to provide the 'opposite' repeater with enough audio. It's just like retransmitting Broadcast FM on a NBFM TX. It's no magic even though the WFM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread w5zit
You put the capacitor on the wrong side of the resistor. Put it on the output side. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 3:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio    

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
Discriminator is always high impedance so high impedance into the circuit. De-emphasized audio is typically used for microphone input, which would typically be low, but you can hang whatever impedance you want because in this case, "it's only audio". The output impedance isn't going to matt

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Powered Repeater

2006-12-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug, I have a commercial, solar-powered repeater in service right now. Although it was intended to be "temporary" while I worked on getting a more robust system on-line, it has plugged away 24/7 for a few weeks shy of four years. This repeater comprises a Motorola R1225 UHF full-duplex transcei

Re: [Repeater-Builder] wide band to cross band on narrow band

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Morris
At 03:25 AM 12/30/06, you wrote: >Scott, > >The CAP is going from wideband FM to narrowband FM in >a few months, We are exploring the Idea of using the old >GE master II machine on 155.160 and crossbanding it with >the new Motorola quantar Narrowband machine.freq pair for >interoperability. > >The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Doug Zastrow
Bill, What source and load impedance are you looking at for this test? Doug - Original Message - From: Bill Hudson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:12 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 meter split site rpt, eqpt recommendations?

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:24 PM 12/29/06, you wrote: >* Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Dec 29 09:37 -0600]: > > > Any suggestions of what kind of gear would be suitable for 10m repeater > > use? Any tips of do's and dont's for 10m? > >I helped a club resurrect a 10m repeater a decade ago. It was a pair >of MASTR Pro

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
To:Ken Cc: Laryn Tell you what Ken. I'll make you a deal. You have the facilities to do it, and you have the test equipment to prove it. I'll let you do the work. The time constant equation is the same, if you put the capacitor in front or behind the resistor.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
Good description Eric Bill - W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audi

RE: [Repeater-Builder] wide band to cross band on narrow band

2006-12-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
John, There is more to the issue than deviation. Most commercial radio makers such as Motorola and Kenwood are using an expansion/compression scheme to keep the signal-to-noise ratio on 11K2F3E emissions the same as on 16K0F3E or 20K0F3E emissions. So, you must consider audio processing as well

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio -Ok just out of mere curiosity what about for audio that is too

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need help troubleshooting a Motorola Mitrek UHF

2006-12-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Wo'ah - Aren't the OR and GN wires the A+ and A+ switched leads going into the control head? First question - did this lash up work and then quit, or are you trying to get it going from scratch? steve NU5D Next www.batlabs.com will probably have the hook up or www.repeater-builder.com else I ca

[Repeater-Builder] Solar Powered Repeater

2006-12-30 Thread Doug Fitts
To start the new year out on a positive note anyone on this list have any experience building a solar powered repeater system? I'd like to get a better understanding on the use of solar panels, charging system, type of batteries used and duty cycle. I'd like to experiment with a totally new submin

[Repeater-Builder] Need help troubleshooting a Motorola Mitrek UHF

2006-12-30 Thread ai4sb
Hello and thanks for reading!! ok, I have a motorola mitrek UHF converted to the ham band. I have the control cable attach and I attach a local speaker to the green and orange wires then I apply power... I should be able to hear the squelch/noise and hear myself in the speaker, but that is my

[Repeater-Builder] wide band to cross band on narrow band

2006-12-30 Thread johnkihl
Scott, The CAP is going from wideband FM to narrowband FM in a few months, We are exploring the Idea of using the old GE master II machine on 155.160 and crossbanding it with the new Motorola quantar Narrowband machine.freq pair for interoperability. The question that comes to mind is how to you

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Basic Question - Required Isolation

2006-12-30 Thread Andy
Thanks for the replies everyone...question answered...thanks for all of the good info, as usual! Andy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 meter split site rpt, eqpt recommendations?

2006-12-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Dec 29 09:37 -0600]: > Gentlemen > With the recent licensing structure changes, 10m meters is going to be > open to tech-minus ops like myself. Im kicking around ideas of a split > site 10m FM rpt, with a 2 meter repeater as link / dual band core. As I understan

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Roger White
Thanks guys. You have given me some food for thought. "Have you set-up your printer / print drivers, to print from DOS, instead of Windows?" I tried to find this but did not find out how to do it. "Although many Motorola RSS programs cannot read from or write to a radio while in a Windows Comma

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:40 PM 12/30/06, you wrote: >I am trying to print a copy of a codeplug for my MSF5000 repeater, but >have not been successful. I keep getting an error on the RSS screen >when I hit the F key to print that says the printer is not ready. I >have it hooked up successfully to the laptop (Sony Vaio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote: >Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side. >Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above? <---You're right. The cap should be on the load side of the resistor, not the disc. side. As for the question about PREemphasis, the cap is i

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Tom
---I tend to agree it was de-emphasized twice once in the ACC850 and once from the RI310E controller out. I jumpered the RI310E back to its flat setting but now to add fuel to the fire its ok in from the 850 but too high and no lows on the output of the 310E into the 850 input side. Thanks agai

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Roger, Although many Motorola RSS programs cannot read from or write to a radio while in a Windows Command Prompt, most will print just fine. Save the codeplug to your root drive, where you can find it easily. Close the DOS program and re-open the RSS in a Windows Command Prompt. Read the archi

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disc. 15K > > 0-/\/\/\/\/\0 output > > | > > | > > .2 u

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tom, Audio that is too bassy has very often been de-emphasized twice, or at least, incorrectly. If you can't switch to "flat" audio somewhere in the chain, then you can possibly rectify the problem by using a coupling capacitor that is sized to counteract the de-emphasis. That is, exchange the p

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mumphrey
Just a thought. Have you set-up your printer / print drivers, to print from DOS, instead of Windows? Charlie "It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the Amateur that holds the license." Charles Mumphrey Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325

[Repeater-Builder] Printing from RSS

2006-12-30 Thread Roger White
I am trying to print a copy of a codeplug for my MSF5000 repeater, but have not been successful. I keep getting an error on the RSS screen when I hit the F key to print that says the printer is not ready. I have it hooked up successfully to the laptop (Sony Vaio 1 GHz) and it is printing OK on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Tom
---By the way I am not going to a discriminator in this case I am going from controller to controller. In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Disc. 15K > > 0-/\/\/\/\/\-

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Tom
-Ok just out of mere curiousity what about for audio that is too bassy? Happy New Year NB2A Tom -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Disc. 15K > > 0-/\/\/\/\/\--

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E-Mail Change of Address

2006-12-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
You betcha, Jim. There is a way for you to use outlook express or other mail programs with gmail as well. Info is on the gmail page. Best 2007. Steve On 12/30/06, Jim Cicirello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve, I went into all my Yahoo Groups to include Repeater-Builder and changed by E-M

RE: [Repeater-Builder] E-Mail Change of Address

2006-12-30 Thread Jim Cicirello
Steve, I went into all my Yahoo Groups to include Repeater-Builder and changed by E-Mail address already. Just took the one off and added the G-Mail. Will that take alright? I have heard G-mail is good. 73 Jim KA2AJH _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
Disc. 15K 0-/\/\/\/\/\0 output | | .2 uf. (point 2 microfarads) |

Re: [Repeater-Builder] E-Mail Change of Address

2006-12-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Before you change, be sure and send a [EMAIL PROTECTED] email (and same for other lists), then when your new account becomes active, send a [EMAIL PROTECTED] email. Probably telling you something you already know, but just in case. You will like the gmail account - no more changes unless you wan

[Repeater-Builder] E-Mail Change of Address

2006-12-30 Thread Jim Cicirello
Effective January 8th Adelphia/Time Warner will be gone. My new contact information is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Cicirello 181 Stevens Street Wellsville, New York 14895 585-593-4655 Home 716-498-3500 Cell

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: De-Emph. Network Examples...

2006-12-30 Thread wb2dss
Hi Skipp, I would also like to be copied on the de-emphasis information from the original GE Master Pro Repeater Audio card if you send it to Tom. Best of holiday wishes to you and yours. Thanks, 73, Rich Rich Poczkalski WB2DSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] In God we trust, all others we run NCIC

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2B05D Duplexer

2006-12-30 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Burt Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Either way > they will not be suitable for narrow split. Am aware of that. I'm hoping to use this in a 3.27mc split application for a repeater remote receiver and APRS digipeater. Thanks to Eric for some ideas on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: De-Emph. Network Examples...

2006-12-30 Thread skipp025
Hi Tom, The simple answer is you only need a resistor and a capacitor to make a basic de-emph network. The next in line simple de-emph network would be some type of active device (transistor or op-amplifier) with a de-emph feedback layout. Keep in mind the de-emph networks don't remove th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2B05D Duplexer

2006-12-30 Thread Burt Lang
From the length of the cans, they cannot be straight 1/4 wave resonators. That length is more like the length for UHF cans. They must be either heavily capacitively loaded or helical resonators. Either way they will not be suitable for narrow split. The specs on a Q-205D standard model show

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2B05D Duplexer

2006-12-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
Laryn, I used Google to search for "Q2B05" and came up with a site where you can obtain the manual: Have you contacted Sinclair? On more than one occasion, Sinclair e-mailed me PDF copies of now-obsolete manuals. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoo

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2B05D Duplexer

2006-12-30 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Burt Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What length are the cans? According to Sinclair's old "Duplexor > nomenclature" from a 1973 datasheet, that the 2B indicates a 132-150 MHz > range. The O5 are "Engineering numbers" and the D = 3in cavity size. >

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio

2006-12-30 Thread Tom
-I am dealing with a controller to controller interface. The one controller is an ACC 850 the other is a Pacific research 310E. I made the the 310e talk to the 850 with de-emphasized audio sounds fine but now both sides on the 310e are de-emphasized which for that contrioller is not acceptable.T