Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Brown
Thanks Scott. Just during the Christmas holiday season, one of our members who just moved to El Paso said that the clubs there have had bad luck with the Mark IV also, and all have gone to a Micor or something similar. Since we purchased the Mark IV in '99, the company has changed hands, and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 02:15 PM 01/16/08, you wrote: (big chunk cut out) The local commercial radio company that takes care of the city, fire, police, etc has Kenwood repeaters but I don't think they go down to our frequency, 144.79/145.39. For now the old Icom is working. Thanks Scott.. 73, Mike K9MI

[Repeater-Builder] ID-O-Matic and T800 unit

2008-01-17 Thread Andreas Papagapiou
Hi all, Has anyone interfaced an ID-O-Matic CW IDer to a TAIT T800 repeater? I have the kit ready, but I need instructions for dummies on how to connect it :-) If possible, I'd like to make it polite i.e. transmit the ID every 10 minutes or when the repeater is activated after some time of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Mike, Realize that here at Repeater-Builder (the company) we build such Micor and MII repeaters. Let me know if you would like me to work up a quote for you. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Michael Brown

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:15 AM 1/17/2008, you wrote: We disconnected the PA and connected the duplexer directly to the exciter. The spike seems to be coming from the exciter itself. -Is you duplexer a notch only type? If it is and it still allows RF 14 megs away from its center frequency to pass with minimal

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA ntn4635a charger schematic needed

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
If for some very strange reason you want to see the internals of the HT-600 / MT-1000 battery (related to your work with the charger units)... you might find the following useful: http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/so02009.html from the main page at: http://www.radiowrench.com/sonic/ (8th

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
Michael Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we purchased the Mark IV in '99, the company has changed hands, and they want $400 minimum for any Mark IV repair. We/I can service the Mark IV Repeater no problama'. In most cases If you pay the shipping (both ways) I/we will give a you a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
Note that the built-in controller in the early Kenwoods (i.e. the 720 models) is pretty brain-dead and does not meet amateur requirements. Those that use those models just set them up as duplex base stations and use an external controller. Requirements or typical desired amateur operation

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Repeater output at site only

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Brown
Scott, Thanks for all of the good information from you and the rest of the group. This is a club repeater that gets very little use anymore and it will have to be voted on if we can spend anything over $50. Our club has shrank in size to about half in the last 12 years. We have a town of

[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Photinos
I have a MSR2000 repeater that transmits on 171.350mhz. We are seeing a transmit spike at 157.072mhz. It is strong enough to break squelch 10+ blocks away with legible copy on the spike frequency. We disconnected the PA and connected the duplexer directly to the exciter. The spike seems

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
The MSR2000 Tx multiplier is 12x the channel element frequency if I remember right, so the crystal fundamental would be 14.279167. 157.071 would be the 11x product if that's the case. Look for a similiar spur on the other side of carrier. The exciter may be bad or not properly tuned, or it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Photinos
The Duplexer is a Sinclair Q202G Bp/Br type. The notches are 90db down at our split 164.3125/171.3500 Repeater is operating in it's designed Freq range. ..Bill Ken Arck wrote: -Is you duplexer a notch only type? If it is and it still allows RF 14 megs away from its center frequency

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1272 Mhz Preamp

2008-01-17 Thread fitz
I've used Chip Angle's band-pass filters and preamps with very good results and he's always been willing to chat on the phone. http://www.anglelinear.com -Sean I am looking for a supplier of low noise high performance receiver preamps and preselectors for a 1272.100 receiver. I have

[Repeater-Builder] 1272 Mhz Preamp

2008-01-17 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard (NU5D)
I am looking for a supplier of low noise high performance receiver preamps and preselectors for a 1272.100 receiver. I have contacted one of the suppliers on the repeater builder information page, but I placed the order in August and cannot get anything but an answering machine and no

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat

2008-01-17 Thread Barry C'
mekp is the hardner in many body fillers.(peroxide) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:41:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat Hi Paul, thank you for this info, based on this I'm sure

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1272 Mhz Preamp

2008-01-17 Thread DCFluX
You can build your own. I believe there are plans in the mid 90's ARRL hand books using MRF-901s. Add an interdigital bandpass filter, 2 poles in front and 3 in back. But you will need test equipment to align it. You can also try MMICs. Some are fairly low noise, but it will keep the part count

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:06 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: This sort of thing happens a lot when people do a tweak peak adjustment of an already working transmitter/exciter. Some stages are by default properly aligned first for a meter dip indication while others are peaked. --I'm still wondering how a low level signal

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1272 Mhz Preamp

2008-01-17 Thread James Delancy
I am personally a big fan of Advanced Receiver Research (Burlington, CT). I just ordered 3 different pre-amps from them and had them in a few days. James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used Chip Angle's band-pass filters and preamps with very good results and he's always been willing to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
Re: MSR2000 transmit spike With a copy of the Service Manual in hand... do a complete new equipment alignment of the exciter board. This means you preset all the coils and the output filter adjustments to the heights indicated in the manual charts for your specific frequency. This sort of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
Simple... it's an unwanted rf signal. Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I'm still wondering how a low level signal 14 megs away from the passband of a duplexer (assuming it's a Bp/Br) can radiate any distance. Ken At 04:06 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: This sort of thing happens a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
You guys ever figure out and actually test a solvent that works on Scotchkoat? I've never found a solvent that did a good job... especially after it (the Scotchkoat aka scotchcoat) had a chance to dry. curious minds want to know... cheers, s. Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Several Repeater Sites

2008-01-17 Thread skipp025
Re: Linking Several Repeater Sites Not one to go with the rest of the crowd... I'm more of a fan of using a mountain top chain linking method. Hard to explain the difference versus hub linking but the chain system operation works much butter 4 me. You might try the Cat Auto or Link Site to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scotchkoat

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Finch
Skipp, MEK will soften it, the problem is it dries to fast and you're right back to square one. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike At 04:06 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: This

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike At 04:06 PM 1/17/2008, you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 transmit spike

2008-01-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ken, How right you are! I wish I had a nickel (actually, I wish I had $10) for every radio that was brought to me with the complaint I did a complete tune-up on this radio, and now it doesn't work! We call these guys diddle-stick artists. While I am not suggesting that the topic poster did

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 1272 Mhz Preamp

2008-01-17 Thread kf0m
Try Wd5ago in Tulsa OK. He is a well respected preamp builder in EME circles and also builds and sells stuff for the SETI program. You can usually catch him on the 70cm EME net Saturday mornings 14.345 John Lock kf0m at arrl.net -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOTOROLA ntn4635a charger schematic needed

2008-01-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mike, The schematic diagram and parts list for the NTN4635B Single-Unit Battery Charger is in Section II of Motorola Publication 6881108C83. Dunno what difference there is between the A and B versions. I have scanned that section and have emailed it to you directly. Other interested parties,

[Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue

2008-01-17 Thread kk2ed
Good Evening, I have a Micor 75 station power supply that is acting up. When the repeater is idle, the voltage output appears clean. But as the load is increased (ie: power output increased), the voltage sags and I get an annoying hum on the tx (indicative of AC ripple on the dc side?). It

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue

2008-01-17 Thread Captainlance
The main supply is only used for the PA, so a bit of AC there won't cause hum in the audio. Check the regulated 9.6 and 12.v supplies on the PC board, these tend to dry out the 100uf caps causing hum. A simple check with a scope will tell all. Motorola's spec on AC is 60millivolts, max. on any

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue

2008-01-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Eric, Without knowing what model of power supply you have, my first guess is that you have an open diode in the high-current supply. An open diode will cause low voltage, high ripple, and major hum. However, your comment suggests a gradual onset of hum, which may indicate a filter capacitor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor power supply issue

2008-01-17 Thread Eric Grabowski
While I don't have experience with that particular power supply, the situation you describe is symptomatic of filter capacitor failure. The capacitor's equivalent series resistance (ESR) becomes so high that it doesn't filter the ac ripple anymore. You should be able to verify this easily by

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor power supply issue

2008-01-17 Thread kk2ed
Let me clarify a little bit I am using the supply to power the Micor repeater as well as a GM300 link transceiver. A few weeks ago I started to notice a slight hum on the link radio's transmitted signal. Now, the hum is so bad, and voltage drop significant, that the GM300's transmit