Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread MCH
: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all > repeaters as repeaters > > [snip] > > > > You

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread George Henry
- Original Message - From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters [snip] > > You're right-the definition is pretty loose. Some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread no6b
At 9/21/2007 07:02, you wrote: >Bob Dengler wrote: > > > Kenwood SkyCommand. 100s of "remote bases" in SoCal. I won't speak for > > other areas, since I'm not familiar with what operators in those areas > > consider their systems to be. Here, they're "auxiliary stations". Don't > > believe me?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread MCH
Each member has a proportional number of votes consistent with the number of licensed hams that live in their area. So, one member may have 1 vote who is in the middle of nowhere compared with someone in a populated area having 12 votes. Hard to understand? Look at the Electoral College. Someone c

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Bob Dengler wrote: > Kenwood SkyCommand. 100s of "remote bases" in SoCal. I won't speak for > other areas, since I'm not familiar with what operators in those areas > consider their systems to be. Here, they're "auxiliary stations". Don't > believe me? Consider that back in the early 70's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Larry wrote: > Not being familiar with the NFCC Voting system ... I'm looking for > enlightenment. > > (Snip) > > Under the NFCC's proportional voting system, 93 votes were cast in favor > of > the motion by 19 members, and 54 against by 11 members. > > (Snip) > > Please explain ... 147 votes b

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Nate Duehr wrote: > Mathematics shows that in cases where some stations can hear others, > whereas a third station (or fourth, fifth, sixth) can only hear one of > the original two stations, there's a cap on effective channel throughput > as eventually the channel (in the worst-case scenario) b

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Chris Rosing wrote: > Ok, For someone who isnt that much into the rules and regsthat > would seem like a duh statement. Why is this such a big deal? To > me, a repeater repeats the signal, hince a repeater. Looking at it, > I am seeing that you refer to delays and transmission > protocol...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Larry
Not being familiar with the NFCC Voting system ... I'm looking for enlightenment. (Snip) Under the NFCC's proportional voting system, 93 votes were cast in favor of the motion by 19 members, and 54 against by 11 members. (Snip) Please explain ... 147 votes by 30 people..?? (Sounds like a Polit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread MCH
Which proposal is that? Joe M. > George Henry wrote: > > That pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin of TASMA's > proposal

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:51 PM 09/20/07, you wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Chris Rosing wrote: > > What other things out there "repeat" but arent repeaters? > >Digipeaters. Since no one ever made a full-duplex digipeater... >-- >Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >* WAR IS PEACE * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY * >* IGNORAN

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread George Henry
That pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin of TASMA's proposal

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Nate Duehr
Kris Kirby wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Chris Rosing wrote: >> What other things out there "repeat" but arent repeaters? > > Digipeaters. Since no one ever made a full-duplex digipeater... Huh? Sure they did. Our club did it in the late 80's and early 90's when regular AX.25 packet radio was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Bob Dengler
At 9/20/2007 03:44 PM, you wrote: >Ok, For someone who isnt that much into the rules and regsthat would >seem like a duh statement. Why is this such a big deal? To me, a >repeater repeats the signal, hince a repeater. Looking at it, I am seeing >that you refer to delays and transmission

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Chris Rosing wrote: > What other things out there "repeat" but arent repeaters? Digipeaters. Since no one ever made a full-duplex digipeater... -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * WAR IS PEACE * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY * * IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH * KETCHUP IS * *

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Chris Rosing
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[Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-20 Thread Mark Thompson
- Forwarded Message From: Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:15:49 PM Subject: NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters The membership of the National Frequency Coordinators' Council has voted to ask the FCC to