Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-27 Thread Nate Duehr
The PA power/efficiency thread has been a great one to read guys, I haven't commented much because real-life/work stuff went nuts the last couple of days. But a quick "thank you" to all of you who tried to convert your knowledge of the topic into readable, usable, plain-english explanation

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-26 Thread Eric Lemmon
epeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching > What Jeff recommends is adjusting the > impedance matching > device and/or the power setting so as to optimize the > efficiency. In other > words, get more power to the antenna and reduce the amount

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
> What Jeff recommends is adjusting the > impedance matching > device and/or the power setting so as to optimize the > efficiency. In other > words, get more power to the antenna and reduce the amount of internal > heating. It may turn out that the point of optimum efficiency > is not at the > r

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-26 Thread Joe
Nate Duehr wrote: > Turning them down (as we've all noted previously) does NOT always mean > that they run cooler due to the aforementioned inefficiency "built in" > to them, so to speak. We've all seen that one with an IR temperature > measuring device pointed at the heatsink and/or power tran

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-26 Thread Eric Lemmon
groups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:51 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching Jeff DePolo wrote: > The changes that occur are at source end inside the PA. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Nate Duehr
Jeff DePolo wrote: > The changes that occur are at source end inside the PA. The ideal load Z > for the output devices changes when you vary the output power. If you > "tune" the Z-matcher to present a load Z to the devices that results in them > operating at maximum efficiency at at 100 watts, an

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread no6b
At 6/25/2009 12:10, you wrote: >That kinda surprises me... how does changing power level affect the match?! The characteristics of the class C RFPA change, in particular the duty cycle. My guess is that as the power output is decreased, the output impedance of the final transistor would go up

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Jeff DePolo
mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:10 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching > > > > That kinda surprises me... how does changing power le

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Nate Duehr
That kinda surprises me... how does changing power level affect the match?! (Not saying I don't believe you Jeff... I know you've probably tested it six ways from sideways... I'm just wondering "Why?" What am I missing here...?) -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:05

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Have you found that adjustments of power level output of the > MastrII PA > has required much retuning of the Z-matcher? I have a plan that may > drop power output during power failures and I'm wondering how the > z-matcher might affect things. Yes, the match will vary as output power is var

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Joe
ximum PA efficiency at the desired power output > level. > > --- Jeff WN3A > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe >> Sent: Thursday, June

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Jeff DePolo
d power output level. --- Jeff WN3A > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:37 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Transmitter matching

2009-06-25 Thread Joe
I was looking around on the Telewave site and found transmitter matchers as shown below. I wonder if anyone has used one on a repeater, such as the GE MastrII? 73, Joe, K1ike MODEL DESCRIPTION FREQ. RANGE TX POWER LIST PRICE TZM-50 E-Z Match - Trans