Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Wright
er-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications >Hard (feed)-Line industry > > >On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Ron Wright wrote: > >> I've seen good fiberglass antennas last 20 or more years in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-03 Thread Nate Duehr
On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Ron Wright wrote: > I've seen good fiberglass antennas last 20 or more years in harsh > enviroments and still show much life left. Up here, above 10,000 MSL, the UV rays eat up the fiberglass and they don't last any longer than 10 years, either. :-) That is... i

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread Ron Wright
e Ham ventage antennas for their fiberglass is little more than paper, hi. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/09/01 Sat PM 01:19:52 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Comm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread Jeff DePolo
> > When I replace my DB224 I am going to a SuperStation Master > fiber glass pole. It is obvious the exposed dipoles have a > survival problem in this salt air. > > Have you looked at the heavy-duty Sinclair folded-dipoles? They seem > better built than the DB's. > > 10 years is starting to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread Nate Duehr
Ron Wright wrote: > When I replace my DB224 I am going to a SuperStation Master fiber glass pole. > It is obvious the exposed dipoles have a survival problem in this salt air. Have you looked at the heavy-duty Sinclair folded-dipoles? They seem better built than the DB's. 10 years is startin

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread no6b
At 8/31/2007 14:38, you wrote: >If aluminum were banned from most sites there would not be many systems on >the air. It s only when Not aluminum altogether but just aluminum-shielded hardline. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread no6b
At 8/31/2007 10:02, you wrote: >Along with that question, is the banned aluminum coax the old unjacketed >stuff like the CATV folks use, or is that any aluminum coax? I'm thinking I think it was any aluminum-shielded hardline. Bob NO6B

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-09-01 Thread Ron Wright
om >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications >Hard (feed)-Line industry > > >If aluminum were banned from most sitesthere would not be many systems on the >air.  It’s only when dissimilarmetals are joined that you have a p

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Paul Finch
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry Yes, aluminum corrodes very rapidly and goes from being a good conductor to being a terrible one. FOr this reason very special precautions must be taken in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Nate Duehr
Eric Lemmon wrote: > I just looked at the Andrew spec sheet for AVA5-50, which is the "Andrew > Virtual Air" replacement for LDF5-50, and the two cables appear to > identical. The AVA5-50 has a copper tube inner conductor and a corrugated > copper outer conductor. I suspect that the thickness of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/30/2007 08:00 PM, you wrote: >Isn't LDF a copper shield with an aluminum core that has copper coating on it? > >Jesse Yes. I was referring to the shield material. Bob NO6B >On 8/30/07, Bob Dengler ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>Under my previous site manag

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Milt
11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry > Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Aluminum oxidizes doesn't it become > non-conductive? Which I believe is the reason it is baned from most > sites? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Jeff Condit
). - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Aluminum oxi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread DCFluX
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Aluminum oxidizes doesn't it become non-conductive? Which I believe is the reason it is baned from most sites?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-31 Thread Jim
skipp025 wrote: > The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry > (*Global Economy) > > enjoy, > s. > > [paste text] > Building upon the market success of its two most significant cable > products, Andrew Corporation has announced they will be streamlining > its long

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 10:50 PM 08/30/07, you wrote: >At 12:25 AM 2007-08-31 -0400, you wrote: > >>Our local FD has been plagued by theives stealing the aluminum cans from >>our can trailer. > >FWIW one ham club I know of have some kind of plug in cable connecting >their building alarm system with the ARES/event trail

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Tony VE6MVP
At 12:25 AM 2007-08-31 -0400, you wrote: Our local FD has been plagued by theives stealing the aluminum cans from our can trailer. FWIW one ham club I know of have some kind of plug in cable connecting their building alarm system with the ARES/event trailer. What kind of sensors and such I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread MCH
Our local FD has been plagued by theives stealing the aluminum cans from our can trailer. It must be worth it. And the content of Heliax (no matter what you call it) has to be higher than a thin walled can. Joe M. Ralph Mowery wrote: > > --- DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Perhaps they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
ct: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry Isn't LDF a copper shield with an aluminum core that has copper coating on it? Jesse On 8/30/07, Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Jesse Lloyd
Isn't LDF a copper shield with an aluminum core that has copper coating on it? Jesse On 8/30/07, Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 8/30/2007 03:45 PM, you wrote: > >The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry > >(*Global Economy) > > > >enjoy, > >s. > > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/30/2007 03:45 PM, you wrote: >The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry >(*Global Economy) > >enjoy, >s. > >[paste text] >Building upon the market success of its two most significant cable >products, Andrew Corporation has announced they will be streamlining >its l

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- DCFluX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps they should mark the jacket with 'Contains > no copper' to > deture cell site theft as well. > > I think the price of aluminum is up enough also to make it worth while to scrap. I have heard of reports of aluminum siding being ripped off.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Don KA9QJG
I have had a 125 Ft. of Andrews LDF 450 ½ in On My 444.75 Repeater for over 15 Yrs. it actually got bent a little during a Move I put 3 Popsicle Sticks on it and Tape SWR Is Still 1.1 , I just wonder if they Switch to alum if it will cause some kind of reaction of Dissimilar Metals on the Connect

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread Nate Duehr
skipp025 wrote: > The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry > (*Global Economy) > > enjoy, > s. > > [paste text] > Building upon the market success of its two most significant cable > products, Andrew Corporation has announced they will be streamlining > its long

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread DCFluX
Perhaps they should mark the jacket with 'Contains no copper' to deture cell site theft as well. On 8/30/07, skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry > (*Global Economy) > > enjoy, > s. > > [paste text] > Building upon the market

[Repeater-Builder] Wal Mart effect makes it to the Communications Hard (feed)-Line industry

2007-08-30 Thread skipp025
The Wal Mart effect* makes it to the Communications Feed-Line industry (*Global Economy) enjoy, s. [paste text] Building upon the market success of its two most significant cable products, Andrew Corporation has announced they will be streamlining its long-running and market-leading HELIAXï¿