RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-11 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Yes but that sounds sort of risky in that the lowest noise > figure of an LNA > is not necessarily achieved at optimum match. Agreed, and most are tuned for lowest NF and not necessarily maximum gain nor ideal match. > My previous comments relating to LNAs may also apply to the > JFET mixe

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/9/2006 09:14 AM, you wrote: > > Well, I'm going to go out on a limb & disagree with Jeff, > > perhaps for the > > first time ever. > >That's OK, we'll still let you hang around our tent and drink our beer at >Dayton :-) Are you going again this year Bob?. Not this year unfortunately; maybe '

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-10 Thread Mike Morris
At 09:33 AM 2/9/06, you wrote: > > Sounds like a nice piece of test equipment to have around: a 50 dB > > non-directional coupler. > >Have two, both hamfest items. One is celwave, and the other is a >bird slug. Spec on the bird slug is -50 at 25-1000 MHz. Seems to be >a pretty rare slug. Kevin

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
> > So, if you lack test equipment and have no choice but to use high- > level > > signals for tuning the pass, you should still be tuning for minimum > > reflected power. > > So bird inbetween TX and cans, tuning on a source like an HT? Yes. To take it one step further, a 6 dB pad (with suitabl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
> I thought consistent and optimum performance were pretty > much the same animal? Only under "lab conditions" :-) Using a vague definition, I'm thinking consistent = best operation over the long term, optimum = best short-term. I've accidentally made a 75 watt Micor UHF PA crank out 200 watts

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-09 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
> Well, I'm going to go out on a limb & disagree with Jeff, > perhaps for the > first time ever. That's OK, we'll still let you hang around our tent and drink our beer at Dayton :-) Are you going again this year Bob?. > My conclusion is that if > whatever you're > using to measure amplitud

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

2006-02-08 Thread no6b
At 2/8/2006 10:38, you wrote: > > I'll take most of what you said as being sarcastic, but your point >is taken. > >I guess so, just pointing out the apparent absurdity. > > >If so, great, you're done. If not, fix it. > >In the end though, the function of the pass adjustments is simply to >transfe