Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin Custer
Hi Dan, I have used several of them in the past. While they provide lots of preselection, they aren't great where NF is concerned. I believe a simple 2 section BP Cavity and GaAs device to follow would easily beat the GLB in performance; both in preselection and NF. Kevin Dan Hancock wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-19 Thread Dan Hancock
Have you guys tried the Simrex (formerly GLB) helical resonator pre-amp? It's great for repeater applications. Very selective and moderate gain. If you're using Bp-Br type cans you don't need any further filtering. http://www.simrex.com/site/products/preselector/Preselector1.pdf   http://www.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Kevin Custer
Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the squelch circuit would have seen MORE noise and rammed the squelch closed. What actually happened is, adding a better device in front of the receiver lowered the receivers total noise figure, decreasing the noise in the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Mike Mullarkey
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier At 12/17/2005 10:21, you wrote: >At 10:15 AM 12/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: > > >I found that the 17dB gain was way

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 10:21, you wrote: >At 10:15 AM 12/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: > > >I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver > ><---That's one reason I swear by Chip's stuff for over 15 year. > >He places stability and noise figure over gain. The result are preamps with >extremel

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 11:07, you wrote: >Bob M. wrote: > > >I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver, and the > noise level increased dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten > the squelch settings. > > > >Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the squelc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 10:15, you wrote: >I've got the same setup. I also have a 4-section >Celwave bandpass filter between the duplexer and >preamp. I found that the 17dB gain was way too much >for the receiver, and the noise level increased >dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten the >squelch se

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-17 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
Like others have said, Lunar doesn't exist any more. Angle Linear is the current company, and Chip Angle makes great products. However, if your ARR is working, you are likely not to experience any measurable improvement in performance by switching to something else (assuming the ARR you have is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-17 Thread Kevin Custer
Bob M. wrote: >I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver, and the noise >level increased dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten the squelch >settings. > Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the squelch circuit would have seen MORE noise and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-17 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:15 AM 12/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: >I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver <---That's one reason I swear by Chip's stuff for over 15 year. He places stability and noise figure over gain. The result are preamps with extremely low noise figure, unconditional stabil

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-17 Thread Bob M.
I've got the same setup. I also have a 4-section Celwave bandpass filter between the duplexer and preamp. I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver, and the noise level increased dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten the squelch settings. The sig strength metering went

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-17 Thread Kevin Custer
mdnosliw wrote: >I am currently running a AR2 preamp on my MSF5000 repeator with a >cellwave 526 duplexor. I was thinking if uogrsding to Lunar preamp, >but can find no reference to them on the internet. If anyone has any >contact information it would be appreciated. > I haven't heard anything