RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-03 Thread Larry Acosta Wong
I've added the two OnStream drives (ADR50 and SC30) in the internal SCSI configurations (wide connector if available). I've listed the pricing I can get to keep the comparison prices consistent. Steve Rothman, the Eliant 820 is an Exabyte drive utilizing an 8mm helical scan tape. The VXA-1

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-03 Thread Jaeger, Luke
, August 3, 2000 4:36 AM To: retro-talk Subject: RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?) I've added the two OnStream drives (ADR50 and SC30) in the internal SCSI configurations (wide connector if available). I've listed the pricing I can get to keep the comparison prices consistent. Steve

Re: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread andrew
Hey Gowan...wanna buy a few hundred Syquest 200s? How about 5.25" MO's? :) - Original Message - From: "Gowan Fenley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:28 AM Subject: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?) Steve said: My previous

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Gowan Fenley
Andrew said: Hey Gowan...wanna buy a few hundred Syquest 200s? How about 5.25" MO's? :) Yuck yuck. Yep, we've scrapped plenty of SyQuests too. A perfect example to prove my point! The most widely accepted industry standard at one time, yet driven out of business by Iomega's product. Could it

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Xavier HUMBERT - Labo Informatique
Le 02/08/2000 a 09:22 -0400 , Gowan Fenley ecrivait : Hey, you can always shoot for the lowest common denominator and invest in Travan! And loose your data... -- Xavier HUMBERT - Systemes et Reseaux | [EMAIL PROTECTED] INJEP | [EMAIL

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Gowan Fenley
Mark said: Gowan, what type of throughputs are you getting and what spec machine do you use as a server? Server is a Dell Poweredge 1300 with a single Pentium 3/450 and 256Mb RAM. Throughput ranges from 171Mb/sec on local volumes down to 2Mb/sec on a fully throttled (20% cpu time) remote mail

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Gowan Fenley
Oh yes - also compare after store is enabled. -gf -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Glenn L. Austin
on 8/2/00 6:22 AM, Gowan Fenley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, if you want to look at single vendor proprietary platforms, you don't have to look farther than Apple ...or Microsoft, or Intel, or AMD. Sorry, had to get those "digs" in there somewhere ;-). Apple's not the only

Re: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Rothman
(The only single-tape solution in my price range is VXA, which sounds very nice, but there is NO WAY I will go with a new, single-vendor solution...) You really have to look at risk vs. cost in this case. You can get into a VXA drive with a few tapes for $600-$700 and have an immediate

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Wade Masshardt
At 15:37 +0200 8/2/00, Xavier HUMBERT - Labo Informatique wrote: Le 02/08/2000 a 09:22 -0400 , Gowan Fenley ecrivait : Hey, you can always shoot for the lowest common denominator and invest in Travan! And loose your data... We use a Travan system where I work and we are planning

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Geoff Rainville
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Rothman Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:18 AM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?) (The only single-tape solution in my price range is VXA, which sounds very nice, but there i

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Gowan Fenley
Steve said: ...In my particular case, I need to specify everything I need for a two year time span (which in my case means two drives plus all tapes and cleaning tapes, etc.) on a single purchase order. ... I cannot tolerate the risk that my VXA drives may go bad a year from now and that no one

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Rothman
Steve: You're killing me here. A two-year tape purchase in advance, but we won't get the sale? Now that you're mentioning tape... Your promotional drive prices are very nice. The "External Retrospect Bundle" for $750 is slightly better than the LaCie DDS-3 + Retro avail from MacWarehouse for

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Geoff Rainville
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Rothman Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:11 PM To: retro-talk Subject: RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?) Steve: You're killing me here. A two-year tape purchase in advance, but we won't get the sale? Now that you're mentioning

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Steve Rothman
I added cost/GB numbers to the end of this nice chart, hope my math is ok. It looks like the media cost of VXA is about in the middle -- not great, not a bargain. DDS-3, which happens to be the format I am comparing to VXA, is tied to be the second cheapest - the only format cheaper is the

RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)

2000-08-02 Thread Douglas B. McKay
May I add one other drive to this list? What does anyone here think of this drive from OnStream (http://www.onstream.com)? Other than having a few (three in one machine), I have no connection to OnStream. They seem to work well, I just hadn't seen much mention here in the time I've been