Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti
Is Riak dead? No new activities on Riak GitHub repo. https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/pulse/monthly <https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/pulse/monthly> https://github.com/basho/riak/pulse/monthly <https://github.com/basho/riak/pulse/monthly

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Russell Brown
Peelikkampatti wrote: > Is Riak dead? No new activities on Riak GitHub repo. > > https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/pulse/monthly > https://github.com/basho/riak/pulse/monthly > > Thanks, > Senthil > ___ > riak-user

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
> users and community were served very badly by Basho these last couple of > years. It’s a little trodden under, but no way dead. Give it a little time to > bounce back. > > Cheers > > Russell > > > On 11 Jul 2017, at 08:15, Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti > wrote: >

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Russell Brown
y were served very badly by Basho these last couple of >> years. It’s a little trodden under, but no way dead. Give it a little time >> to bounce back. >> >> Cheers >> >> Russell >> >> >> On 11 Jul 2017, at 08:15, Senthilkumar Peelikkampat

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread DeadZen
t; > >> Cheers > >> > >> Russell > >> > >> > >> On 11 Jul 2017, at 08:15, Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti < > sendto...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Is Riak dead? No new activities on Riak GitHub repo. > >>> >

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
this >> >> could be a very good thing for Riak in the medium to long term. It and >> >> it’s >> >> users and community were served very badly by Basho these last couple of >> >> years. It’s a little trodden under, but no way dead. Give it a l

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread DeadZen
) If you’re asking > me, this > >> >> could be a very good thing for Riak in the medium to long term. It > and it’s > >> >> users and community were served very badly by Basho these last > couple of > >> >> years. It’s a little trodden under, but no way

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
gt; >> the >> >> >> existing partners (Erlang Solutions, Trifork etc.) If you’re asking >> >> >> me, this >> >> >> could be a very good thing for Riak in the medium to long term. It >> >&

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread lloyd
--Original Message- From: "Russell Brown" Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:40pm To: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" Cc: "riak-users" Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? Hi Senthilkumar, No Riak is not dead. It’s parent company, Basho is dead. And they kept the keys. There are

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Alexander Sicular
-Original Message- > From: "Russell Brown" > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:40pm > To: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" > Cc: "riak-users" > Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? > > Hi Senthilkumar, > No Riak is not dead. It’s parent company, Bas

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Russell Brown
oo great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action.   All the best,   LRP     -Original Message-From: "Russell Brown" Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:40pmTo: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" Cc: "riak-users" Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? Hi Senthilkumar,No Ri

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Tom Santero
l Message- > From: "Russell Brown" > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:40pm > To: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" > Cc: "riak-users" > Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? > > Hi Senthilkumar, > No Riak is not dead. It’s parent company, Basho is dead.

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Alexander Sicular
; It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> >> LRP >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: "Russell Brown" >> Sent

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
re: roadmap and governance. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. >>> >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> >>> >>> LRP >>> >>> >>&g

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Christopher Meiklejohn
>>> > >>> > >>> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> LRP > >&

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
>>> >> >>> >> >>> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> All the best, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Christopher Meiklejohn
Riak? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm sure there are many good ideas out there re: roadmap and >>> governance. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Russell Brown
map and governance. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> > >>> > >>&

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
>> >>> I'm sure there are many good ideas out there re: roadmap and governance. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action. >> >>> >> >&g

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread DeadZen
erence > focused on > >> >>> the future of open-source Riak? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm sure there are many good ideas out there re: roadmap and > governance. > >> >&g

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Christopher Meiklejohn
;>> Hmmm--- I wonder if anyone has given thought to a conference >> focused on >> >> >>> the future of open-source Riak? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I'm sure there are

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> We have talked about it. Let's do it! >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On Jul 13, 2017 7:56 PM, ll...@writersglen.com wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Hmmm

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-13 Thread lloyd
--Original Message- From: "Russell Brown" Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:00pm To: ll...@writersglen.com Cc: "riak-users" , "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" , "Russell Brown" Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? We have talked about it. Let's do it! On J

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Gokhan Boranalp
> > 2. How can we pin down an agenda? > > 3. Can we get corporate sponsorships to minimize registration? > > 4. How can we most widely promote the event? > > 5. What else? > > > > All the best, > > > > Lloyd > > > > > > -Origi

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Alexander Sicular
4. How can we most widely promote the event? > > 5. What else? > > > > All the best, > > > > Lloyd > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Russell Brown" > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:00pm > To: ll...@writersglen.com >

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
ere to there: >> >> >> >> 1. Is there enough interest on the mailing list? >> >> 2. How can we pin down an agenda? >> >> 3. Can we get corporate sponsorships to minimize registration? >> >> 4. How can we most widely promote the event? >> >> 5. What e

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Dave King
expanding the open-source community > >> > >> 3. Saturday (or Saturday morning) > >> > >> Discussion sessions with goal of recommendations for moving forward > >> > >> > >> > >> How to get from here to there: > >> > >&

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Alexander Sicular
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:32, Russell Brown wrote: > > What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2 licensed open > source database, so it can continue to be used to describe that apache 2 > licensed database, please don’t spread FUD. You willing to invest time in a project t

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Dave King
Looks like Basho has the trademark on Riak. http://www.trademarkia.com/riak-77954950.html - Peace Dave On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Alexander Sicular wrote: > > > > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:32, Russell Brown wrote: > > > > What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2 licens

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:08, Alexander Sicular wrote: > > >> On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:32, Russell Brown wrote: >> >> What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2 licensed open >> source database, so it can continue to be used to describe that apache 2 >> licensed database, plea

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:17, Dave King wrote: > Looks like Basho has the trademark on Riak. > http://www.trademarkia.com/riak-77954950.html They sure do. And if you look at the Apache2 license you’ll see that it grants use of the name to identify the source. Look, I’m not a lawyer, and I’m guess

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:26, Dave King wrote: > 6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade names, > trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor, except as > required for reasonable and customary use in describing the origin of the > Work and reproducin

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Dave King
6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade names, trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor, except as required for reasonable and customary use in describing the origin of the Work and reproducing the content of the NOTICE file. So At minimum I read t

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread lloyd
Message- From: "Russell Brown" Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 12:32pm To: "Alexander Sicular" Cc: ll...@writersglen.com, "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" , "riak-users" Subject: Re: Is Riak dead? On 14 Jul 2017, at 17:26, Alexander Sicular wrote: > I lov

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Dave King
No, but I can read. - Peace Dave On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Russell Brown wrote: > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:26, Dave King wrote: > > > 6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade > names, trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor, except > as

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:28, Dave King wrote: > No, but I can read. I read it too. I’m not sure what your point is. A day may come when the name has to change? > > - Peace > Dave > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Russell Brown wrote: > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:26, Dave King wrote: > >

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Dave King
You asked what difference the tm made. The tm invokes clause 6. So yes it means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be considered. - Peace Dave On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Russell Brown wrote: > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:28, Dave King wrote: > > > No, but I can

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Russell Brown
On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:36, Dave King wrote: > You asked what difference the tm made. The tm invokes clause 6. So yes it > means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be > considered. Agree, so if we’re sticking to the subject, “Is Riak dead?” the

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread lloyd
Perhaps we can get overview of legal issues and options here: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/ Best, Lloyd -Original Message- From: "Russell Brown" Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:30pm To: "Dave King" Cc: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" , "riak

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Outback Dingo
ere: > > http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/ > > Best, > > Lloyd > > -Original Message- > From: "Russell Brown" > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:30pm > To: "Dave King" > Cc: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" , "riak-users&q

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-14 Thread Alexander Sicular
clause 6. So yes it >> means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be >> considered. > > Agree, so if we’re sticking to the subject, “Is Riak dead?” the worst case > is: “No, but potentially the name could be some time in the future”, right? &

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread Russell Brown
s it >>> means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be >>> considered. >> >> Agree, so if we’re sticking to the subject, “Is Riak dead?” the worst case >> is: “No, but potentially the name could be some time in the future”, right? >>

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread Steve Roberts
rs is a large part of what did for Basho. On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Russell Brown wrote: On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:36, Dave King wrote: You asked what difference the tm made. The tm invokes clause 6. So yes it means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread DeadZen
g the core users is a large part of what did for >> Basho. >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Russell Brown >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:36, Dave King wrote: >>>>> >>>>

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread Lloyd R. Prentice
ment. I think now is the time to shore up the existing >> customers who want to stay with Riak. Chasing non-existent new business >> whilst ignoring the core users is a large part of what did for Basho. >> >>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Russel

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread DeadZen
7;t already using Riak. That's today, the >>>> story may change tomorrow. >>> Again, I disagree, but I’m personally not that interested in looking for >>> new Riak users at the moment. I think now is the time to shore up the >>> existing customers w

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-15 Thread Carlos Baquero Moreno
m not dancing on anyone's grave. Im a big fan of Riak, you know? I'm >>>>> just pointing out that there is in fact a grave and if there is any hope >>>>> for a Riak future the project will have to rebrand. >>>> This is the thing we disagree on. But like I said b

Re: Is Riak dead?

2017-07-16 Thread Christopher Meiklejohn
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Carlos Baquero Moreno wrote: > > It is sad to see Basho dying, but good to see that there is hope that Riak > will survive. Being an open source database was very important for academics > to experiment and propose solutions. Not everything makes sense in an act