Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Nicolae Popa
> > >Presume one of your students makes a fit on a sample having only size > >anisotropy and he is able to determine the six parameters of the ellipsoid. > >But after that he has a funny idea to repeat the fit changing (hkl) into > >equivalents (h'k'l'). He has a chance to obtain once again a go

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Armel Le Bail
He could ask the master how is the nature so perfect. Or could conclude by himself that powders are not single crystals, so that symmetry may lead to systematic overlap and irrecoverable loss of information. Yes, anisotropic line broadening is rarely observed with cubic compounds unless in very sp

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Matteo Leoni
I just wanted to add my 2 cents to this argument... I think one big point in all the discussion on size and strain concerns the difference between what IS in the specimen, what we see with our probe (X-rays or neutrons, presumably) and what we reconstruct using A model. In most cases the model

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Nicolae Popa
> Not violating symmetry restrictions you may either > have the sphere with the terms 11=22=33 and 12=13=23=0 > or something else allowing the 12=13=23 terms to be equal > but different from 0. These two possibilities are all you can do > in cubic symmetry with h,k,l permutable. If I am not wrong.

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Jon Wright
Not violating symmetry restrictions you may either have the sphere with the terms 11=22=33 and 12=13=23=0 or something else allowing the 12=13=23 terms to be equal but different from 0. These two possibilities are all you can do in cubic symmetry with h,k,l permutable. If I am not wrong. The (111)

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Armel Le Bail
(you could be a good boxeur, Armel!), Knocked out at round 4 ! Argh ! Anyway, a sphere was good enough for the previous size-strain round robin... Hope that the next size-strain round robin will be more complex, and will succeed in excluding definitely any ellipsoid from the ring. Armel

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-14 Thread Nicolae Popa
> > >(you could be a good boxeur, Armel!), > > Knocked out at round 4 ! Argh ! Some people believe that "fair play" is mainly an Anglo-Saxon apanage (prerogative). Obviously they are wrong. > > Anyway, a sphere was good enough for the previous > size-strain round robin... Hope that the next siz