Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Alan W Hewat
OK, thanks Cora. Yes, an internal standard using a simple well characterised material is a good idea. I perhaps over reacted when you listed all the parameters you refined for a multi-phase sample, including ADPs. Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics Grenoble, FRANCE (from

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Lind-Kovacs, Cora
I should have been more specific – this was not with respect to QPA specifically – it was a more general statement about the terminology of when we should or shouldn’t use the expression “Rietveld refinement”. Although we actually often do Rietveld refinements on 2 phase mixtures, where one phas

Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread EVANS, IVANA R.
Dear Alan, No problems with “Rietveld refinement” at all, despite the fact that I met Hugo Rietveld when I was a young postdoc at 1999 IUCr and he seemed rather refined to me, too. And it’s not my students I’m concerned about - they take me surprisingly seriously, on issues of refinement and (c

Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Alan W Hewat
Dear Smudut. Potatoes in gives Potatoes out from black box software with buttons. Dear Ivana. Do you also have a problem with the shorthand expression "Rietveld Refinement"? If so, you might try my joke that Rietveld is already refined :-) I think you can use such apparent mis-statements to teach

RE: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)
5 5793 From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Norberto Masciocchi Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 11:15 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: Misconduct/terminology Il 16/01/2024 17:06, EVANS, IVANA R. ha scritto: Dear All, Data shold be NEVER refined, no matter whether "data£ is

Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Norberto Masciocchi
Il 16/01/2024 17:06, EVANS, IVANA R. ha scritto: Dear All, Data shold be NEVER refined, no matter whether "data£ is considered singular or plural. It's the model which is refined. Beyound this, "data" is plural, as it is the plural of "datum". https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english

Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread Smudut
Potato-potato...Software that I am using for QPA has one button named "Rietveld refinemet" so for me it is Rietveld refinement 😀👍Poslano iz Outlook za Android ++ Please do NOT attach files to the whole list Send commands to eg: HELP as t

Re: Misconduct/terminology

2024-01-16 Thread EVANS, IVANA R.
Dear Alan/All, I have a problem with that shorthand expression, particularly in teaching and training contexts, because students quickly equate this to “refining the data”. Countless research papers, even coming from reputable groups and published in reputable journals, contain statements that