Re: [atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Karsten Thomann
‎I don't think the measurement would show usable results, as you don't know if the cpe at the probe would block unknown sources or the provider. For example at my home the v4 connection uses the provider owned cpe nat and v6 would go through my firewall as the sixxs tunnel terminate on it. How wo

Re: [atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Peter Koch
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 07:50:16PM +0300, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > Could we detect probe hosts who do not deploy outgoing filtering and > accept spoofed traffic? while this may sound tempting, I think it would be more helpful in the long run to maintain atlas probes as a tool to map the Internet r

Re: [atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Jared Mauch
Wish i were there.. There’s some cool ways to detect this externally that I know some researchers are working on documenting. I think their results will be at NDSS or PAM (i forget which). - Jared > On Nov 17, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > > Hello! > > Thanks for answer! > > But

Re: [atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello! Thanks for answer! But actually we have huge issues with IPv4. Could we collect this stats with full anonymous approach for bitting ethical problem here? So we definitely need number of networks who ignore this rules. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Jen Linkova wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17,

Re: [atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Jen Linkova
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Pavel Odintsov wrote: > I'm writing from RIPE71 / Anti spoofing BoF. So I want to ask for some > difficult ethical question. > > Could we detect probe hosts who do not deploy outgoing filtering and > accept spoofed traffic? > > We need to know amount of they. It's

[atlas] Spoofing measurenments

2015-11-17 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Hello, Community! I'm writing from RIPE71 / Anti spoofing BoF. So I want to ask for some difficult ethical question. Could we detect probe hosts who do not deploy outgoing filtering and accept spoofed traffic? We need to know amount of they. It's really important for solving spoofing issue in In