Re: [atlas] Replacing flash key

2016-05-20 Thread Marat Khalili
I did the experiment, and it was successful: probe appeared 8 minutes after booting with a new flash key. I'd say we need more statistics, but sometimes it works. -- With Best Regards, Marat Khalili On 19/05/16 17:47, Boris Fersing wrote: Hi, I was asking because I had a similar issue recen

[atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Michael Ionescu
>From both my own (short term) experience and from what's being written on this >list, I'm getting the impression that the USB drive may be costing more than >it's worth. I have in only about 3 months experienced multiple probe issues due to USB drives and there have been multiple threads on t

[atlas] New on RIPE Labs: There Is Gold in This Stream - Sifting Through Used RIPE Atlas Traceroute Results

2016-05-20 Thread Mirjam Kühne
Dear colleagues, Please find a new article on RIPE Labs demonstrating the value of the results collected by RIPE Atlas independent of the original purpose for collecting them. Using all traceroute results from a particular day as an example, we first show that near real-time analysis of the result

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 20/05/2016 15:37, Michael Ionescu wrote: Interesting idea to make the USB drive optional. Based on literature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive#Failures https://askleo.com/can_a_usb_thumbdrive_wear_out/ - 10,000-100,000 http://cfgearblog.blogspot.co.il/2011/03/how-long-does-flash

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:37:44PM +0200, Michael Ionescu wrote: > >From both my own (short term) experience and from what's being written on > >this list, I'm getting the impression that the USB drive may be costing more > >than it's worth. [..] > Any thoughts? The USB outages and the lac

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Gil Bahat
+1. I lost most of the probes this way and I'm not really sure how to recover them - I need to ask for a batch of USB drives or ask all the hosts to remove them... can't this be handled better with a firmware replacement? I would at least then ask all the hosts to unplug the USB and leave the hosts

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Philip Homburg
On 2016/05/20 14:37 , Michael Ionescu wrote: > If the main reason for the drive is to cache data during unavailability > of the command and control center, this may not be worth the effort. No, the probe actually runs from the USB stick. The internal 4MB flash is just enough to initialize the USB

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Philip Homburg
On 2016/05/20 14:57 , Hank Nussbacher wrote: > Has anyone tested how many writes are going on to the ATLAS thumb > drive? Perhaps with all the failures within a year of start, perhaps > too many writes are taking place? We have no clear idea why they fail. It seems that time to failure is highly

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 04:10:47PM +0200, Philip Homburg wrote: > We have no clear idea why they fail. It seems that time to failure is > highly variable. Can you correlate tests-until-failure or data-written-until-failure? One of mine has failed at least two times now, and it could be that

Re: [atlas] USB drive more harmful than helpful?

2016-05-20 Thread Phillip Remaker
So I have a few theories. I have now had 3 different USB sticks fail on me: Two Sandisk 4GB SDCZ33 and one cheap generic 8GB replacement. The power draw of the TP-Link system + USB is probably more than the opportunistic USB ports they get plugged in to. An underpowered probe runs great MOST of th

[atlas] Probe is down but does send DNS according tot SOS history

2016-05-20 Thread gboonie
Hi, How can it be that the status of a probe is down while I see current DNS requests in the SOS list without any remarks in the 'info' column? Even the power-up time is increasing. If the probe can send DNS requests, why does it not have some mechanism to recover? Seem not too hard to make

Re: [atlas] Probe is down but does send DNS according tot SOS history

2016-05-20 Thread gboonie
No. Everything seemed normal except that it was down. All tags like "IPv4 works" etc. were there. The only thing was that the status was down. So I pulled the power, pulled USB, replaced the power. Went to brush my teeth and came back to replace USB and went to bed around 23:30 (21:30UTC) A f